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state law--divorce
I understand that some states require that if a participant's beneficiary is his/her spouse, that designation is automatically revoked upon divorce.
Would appreciate your sharing how you handle this operationally.
Thanks.
Do Catch-Up Contributions require a Top Heavy allocation?
A quick question. The only contribs made to a Plan are Catch-Up contribs made by a Key Employee. No contribs are made by Non-Key's during the year. More than 60% of assets in the Plan are in the Key EE account. Does the Catch-Up contrib trigger a Top Heavy allocation to be made to the Non-Key EE's?
A Curious Number
A friend told me he would pick us up at 6:43PM to go to dinner. He pulled this number out of the air because I commonly state weird pick-up times ("I'm a round number iconoclast"). 643 has somewhat interesting properties, I observed.
643 is a prime number.
13 = 6 + 4 +3 is a prime number
7 = 6 + 4 -3 is a prime number
5 = 6 - 4 + 3 is a prime number
67 = 64 + 3 is a prime number
61 = 64 - 3 is a prime number
37 = -6 + 43 is a prime number
There may be other prime numbers that can be formed by the digits 6, 4, and 3 while respecting the order but 6:43 was approaching so I had to put my pencil down.
Real estate operating acct for 3 trusts
Our company is a TPA and I am the trustee of TPA 401(k) PS Trust. Along with two other plan clients, we invested in a Multi-Lender first trust deed transaction. The property went into foreclosure and the three unrelated retirement trusts now own the real estate. We plan to rent it for 5-7 years, then sell the property. In the meantime, there are lots of costs associated with managing real estate. Repairs, taxes, insurance, on-site property manager, etc. I told the other two plans' trustees that I would be willing to serve as an unpaid property agent, receiving rent from the on-site property manager, and paying bills, and making distributions to the 3 owners. To do this, I need to set up a bank account.
Question: am I allowed to set up the bank account in the name of the TPA 401(k) PS Trust? I would then make distributions to the other two trusts as positive cash flow allows. Or does this violate the standard trust document found in most plans, which requires that the trust hold assets only for the beneficiaries of the TPA 401(k) PS Trust? On the one hand, my duty as trustee is to safeguard the asset partially held by my trust, and safeguarding includes facilitating careful management. On the other hand, the only explicit language I can find permitting commingled trusts is when a single employer sponsors more than one plan.
Any thoughts?
60 day loan from IRA with a catch...
I know you can "borrow" from your IRA for 60 days and as long as the money is returned BEFORE the 60 day period it's not a taxable distribution. What if the person did not return it to the IRA but instead deposited it into a Qualified Retirement plan before the 60 day period was up?
Would that still be OK?
Doug
RMD
Participant retires in 2010, the year in which she also attains age 70 1/2. She is requesting a direct rollover of her PS Plan balance to an IRA.
Must she receive her 2010 RMD from the Plan before her rollover is processed? Or, since she could defer her initial RMD until 04/01/2011, could she, instead, opt to have her 2010 RMD paid from her rollover IRA?
PBGC Filing in Year of Termination
A client terminated their PBGC covered cash balance plan effective 7-1-09. The client informed us that all distributions occured prior to 12-31-09 and provided copies of the checks. Forms 1099R were prepared for the distributions for 2009. While completing Form 501, the client informed us that the last check was actually cashed on 2-4-2010. The owner had held onto his distribution check, made a deposit to the plan in 2010 to fully fund his benefit and cashed his check at that time. We certified on Form 501 that the last distribution date was 2-4-10.
1- I am preparing the 2009 PBGC filing. For my participant count at 12-31-2009, do I need to determine the number of participants whose checks hadn't cleared and use that as my count or can I say that there were no participants who whom the plan had a liability on that date because the checks written were an accrued distribution?
2- Would this be the PBGC final filing for the plan? The form asks for the date of the event that ceases the filing obligation. I would either have to enter 2-4-10, which is after the filing year, or the date the last check was written, which wouldn't coincide with the date certified on the Form 501.
3- Can I file a final 5500 for 2009 or will I have to file a 2010?
Nonamender and Opearational Failure
If we are a "nonamender" and have an operational failure are we to submit an Appendix D and an Appendix F? Doesn't seem very streamlined. Also, would the nonamender fee cover the operational failure?
Max 415 Age 70 DB plan
I have a plan that someone wants me to take over. The prior actuary has a monthly pension and accrued benefit at age 70 of $22,431 as of 12/31/08. The compensation was always been at the max allowed ($230,000, $225,000, $200,0000, $210,000 etc). Since the plan uses a 3 yr avg. the monthly pension EXCEEDS the salary 3 yr avg of $18,194 as of 12/31/08.
403(b) prototypes
I'm a "401(a)" person, so pardon my ignorance -
Are there now 403(b) "prototype" documents available for adoption by sponsoring employers? If so, I would appreciate any info as to providers of same that any one is willing to offer.
Thanks!
5500 for fewer than 100 participants
Can someone expound a bit on what, if anything, makes it necessary to file a 5500 for a welfare benefit plan for a company with less than 100 participants? Specifically regarding the instructions on page four of the 5500 Instructions under the heading "Do Not File A Form 5500 For A Welfare Benefit Plan That Is Any of the Following:"
Is it really just as simple as there is a Cafeteria Plan, there are fewer than 100 participants, therefore we don't need to file a 5500? I see some pitfalls in the instructions regarding the regulations, code, and a technical release that I don't fully understand.
Thanks
safe harbor and top heavy pass
I have a plan which ihas basic match safe harbor formula. This year profit sharing forfeitures are to be reallocated. I understand this takes the plan out of the top heavy pass. The reallocation of forfeitures is on a comp to comp basis or 1.07% of pay to both HCE and NHCE employees. Does an additional amount need to be deposited for those participants who do not receive a safe harbor match to reach the 3% top heavy minimum or does the 1.07% suffice? Thanks
20% Federal Taxes -- Exception?
Participant left employment due to disability, received a distribution of appx. $90,000. A W-2 was issued and in box 12, code "Z" was used. CPA is doing the participant's tax return and is questioning if there is an exception to the 20% federal tax because of the participant's disability.
Any input / citations would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
ARRA Subsidy and Self-Pays in Multiemployer Fund
I represent a multi-employer welfare fund that allows self-payments by participants if they are short hours to qualify for active benefits. Some of the guys are laid off and qualify for ARRA, but then they pick up some hours and it is cheaper for them to pay the self-pay (which is based on the number of hours you are short of the active benefit requirement). Can they go back and forth between ARRA subsidy and the self-pay depending on which is cheaper? I don't think so based on the fact that there isn't another involuntary termination to trigger the ARRA subsidy. But I was just wondering if any other multiemployer plans have dealt with this.
Thank you.
Average Benefits Testing
Here is the situation:
The profit sharing component of a 401(k) Plan is not passing the ratio test for coverage. The Main populations ratio is 68% and the "otherwise excludables" ratio is 3.25%. Average Benefits would help the main group, but obviously not the "otherwise excludable" group. My question is, can we run the Average Benefits tests not disaggregated for the sole purpose of running the ratio test for the profit sharing piece not disaggregated? Or if we run the Average Benefits test not disaggregated, does that mean we now need to run all testing not disaggregated?
Any thoughts would greatly be appreciated!
Control Group
A not for profit organization offers a 403(b) plan and a for profit organization does not sponsor a plan, but is is 80% or more controlled by the trustees or directors of the other organization. It seems clear to me from the final 403(b) regs. that you have a controlled group. First, am I reading correctly that the IRS wants an analysis to be done to see whether a not-for-profit and for profit are in the same control group? If so and they are in fact in the same control group, how do you test and what do you do if they fail? I would think universal availability wouldn't apply to a for profit organization b/c they cannot offer a 403(b) plan. Do you have to then offer a 401(k) plan to the for profits? That can't be what the IRS meant.
Thank you!
EPCRS
We have an off-calendar year 401(k) "church" plan. In 2007, the plan allowed for in-service distributions from all accounts at age 60. In 2008, we recieved our updated software for EGTRRA. New questions were added based on the update. In error, in 2008 the restated plan limited in-service distributions to elective deferrals only at age 60. We reviewed the plan with the ER line by line - literally. They signed the document. In error, the administrative software was not updated to limit to elective deferrals only - although that's what the plan says. The employer is now telling us that they did not want that provision changed and it always should have been all accounts at 60.
Clearly we as the recordkeeper have to take ownership. They have a prior determination letter. We're having a difference of opinion internally on how to correct the problem.
Some of us feel that this is an operational failure it's been less than 2 years, and we should amend the plan to comply with operation using (SCP).
Others feel that we should use VCP, and we should make-up almost $100,000 of the restricted money that was distributed. (Keep in mind the plan has immediate vesting and they would have gotten that money anyway.)
Others feel that this is clearly a scrivner's error, because the administrative set up matches the ER's intent and the SPD's both allow for all contributions.
What is correct?
Is there any way to exclude a non owner dentist from TH and let him defer in a Sole Prop?
Is there any way to exclude a non owner dentist from TH and let him defer in a Sole Prop?
Details are as follows: The plan was amended in 2007 to exclude non owner dentists. When I took over the Plan late summer, I did not get this amendment. So I told him he could defer. When I went to do cross testing, I called the attorney who drafted the doc to see if there was any provision to put him in his own group. Yesterday, I saw the amendment to exclude him. I can't find anything in EPCRS to say how to correct this problem. A late amendment is supposed to affect mainly NHCE's. This will affect one HCE, only. Also, EPCRS talks about someone deferring who was not eligible because of age or service or not passing an entry date. I can't find where any excluded class is mentioned.
All I can think of is refund all of the money including gains.
Am I missing something in Rev. Proc. 2008-50 or does anyone know of anything else?
combining IRAs (one is from a Keogh)
My boss has 2 IRAs. He is taking RMDs from each. He wants to know if he can combine them and take one RMD from the combined IRA.
One of the IRAs has the following history: Boss had a Keogh Plan with a single member. He was told he had to terminate it and put it in an IRA which he did.
Is there any reason he can't combine the two IRAs?
Distribution to EE turned IC?
Employee terminated employment with employer. Employee became independent contractor to perform same job as before. Distribution from 457(b) plan permissible?









