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Deferral Past NRA
If a plan allows a participant to defer receipt of his benefit past normal retirement age - - - assume he quits before NRA, and does not work on or after NRA at all - - - and the participant affirmatively, voluntarily does so by electing to defer until age 68, must his benefit be actuarially increased for the delayed payment? My understanding of 401(a)(14) and 411 is that the payment must be increased, but I wasn't sure whether his affirmative election to defer somehow eliminates that requirement.
Thanks.
COBRA Subsidy: Part-time to terminated
If a participant becomes eligible for COBRA as a result of a reduction in hours (he is reduced to part-time status) does his subsequent involuntary discharge trigger subsidy rights with respect to the remaining 9 (or fewer) months of COBRA coverage, counted from the date of his involuntary termination? I would assume so, but couldn't find anything explicitly on point.
Thanks very much.
Communication Tip
A plan sponsor whose 2009 FTAP is well below 80% has opted to fund the minimum required contributions. 2009 actual contributions and 2010 quarterly estimates are as follows:
7/15/2009 $ 52,000 (for 2009)
10/15/2009 52,000 (for 2009)
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....................$104,000
1/15/2010 $ 52,000 (for 2009)
4/15/2010 80,000 (for 2010)
7/15/2010 80,000 (for 2010)
9/15/2010 107,000 (for 2009)
10/15/2010 80,000 (for 2010)
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...................$ 399,000
In such situations, it is important to stress that the client should not contribute any of their 2010 estimates in 2009. In such case, they would not be able to use the PB that arises from 2009 excess contributions to reduce their 2010 obligation. Consequently, they would only get the immediate value of the reduction in shortfall amortization -- about 1/6 of the contributions. For example, suppose the client decided to make the entire $399,000 in 2009. They would add $240,000 to their PFB which they couldn't use to reduce 2010 contributions (because the 2009 FTAP<80%). The excess would reduce the shortfall by $240,000 which would reduce the amortization by let's say $240,000 / 6 = $40,000. This would reduce each 2010 quarterly installment by $10,000 so they would still have to come up with additional $70,000 for 4/15/2010, 7/15/2010, and 10/15/2010, or $210,000. And the plan sponsor thought they were doing the right thing, which they did, except they forgot that "no good deed goes unpunished."
So much for encouraging plan sponsors to accelerate funding their plans!
401k merger and termination - help needed
I work in Human Resources, so I don't know all the financial lingo and could really use some help.
Last year on January 1, my company acquired another. We each had a 401k plan. The first few months after the merger, we ran both 401k plans (and were told we could do so until the end of the year following the merger). In revieiwng the plans, we actually liked their 401k plan better, so we worked with their provider to terminate our 401k plan and trasnfer the assets in their plan. We took all of the steps we were told to do, including having a blackout period and informing all of the employees in advance. We sent a termination letter to our 401k provider and to our TPA and they worked with the new provider for the merger of assets. It all seemed ok. I thought the final step in this process was to file the final 5500 for the terminated plan, within 7 months of the termination. Then, later in 2009, to file the 5500 for the existing plan.
However, our auditors are telling us that there wasn't really a merger and we still have 2 active 401k plans. I keep asking what more we could have done to terminate the plan, but no one can give me a response. Was there something more we needed to do? And what can we do now? The auditors won't process either 5500 because the existing 401k provider gave all of the information together and the auditors want it separate as if it is still two plans. Help!
Fidelity Bond Requirements for a Retirement Plan
Current Fidelity Bonding Requirements for retirement plans: What amount must one have for the bond?
Fidelity Bonding Requirements for retirement plans; what happens if you have two distinct plans? Say a money purchase plan and a profit-sharing plan.
Roth deferrals with a loss at distribution
There is a debate raging in our office, and I'd appreciate some input from others.
If a participant, who has made Roth deferrals and has a loss on his or her account, elects to take a distribution partially in cash and partially as a rollover, can they choose how to allocate the loss between the cash and rollover?
The Erisa Outline Book says that gains must be prorated, but apparently some of our Compliance people believe that does not apply to losses. I'm struggling to understand why losses would be treated differently than gains, but I do know that logic and IRS rules are sometimes mutually exclusive.
412(i) Audit from hell, could use some help
IRS ISSUE 1: Disallowance of first year’s premium. The IRS actuary says "In general, a qualified plan does not exist unless a corresponding trust also exists. When a qualified plan is first established, the trust must be in existence no later than thel ast day of the initial plan year for the plan to be in existence with respect to that plan year. Within the context of a plan described under IRC section 412(i), the insurance policies and annuity contracts that are used to fund the retirement benefits function in the same manner as a trust functions with regard to a traditionally funded defined benefit plan. Therefore, if the policies are not in effect and if no premiums were actually paid until after February 28, 2000, not only does the plan fail to be a plan described under IRC section 412(i) in 1999, but also the plan itself does not exist in 1999. Therefore, the deduction for 1999 (or 2000 depending on how the tax year correlates to the plan year) should be disallowed."
The client made the 1st year contribution within 8 1/2 months of the plan anniversary. How do you argue with the IRS actuaries assertion? Funding the 1st year contribution after the 1st plan year end in a 412(i) is a very common practice. Anyway, how can they take away an eight year old deduction? What happened to the statute of limitations.
Thanks, much help needed on this one.
Non-Spousal Rollovers
Does anybody know what the deadline was for amending a plan to provide for non-spousal rollovers in 2008? I seem to recall that the provision could be implemented during 2008 at the option of the plan sponsor, but that there was a remedial amendment period. Or was it necessary to amend the plan by the end of the 2008 plan year?
Thanks!
Distribution Fees
Can the Plan Sponsor pay distribution fees from the Plan? For example, if the lump sum is $500, can there be two checks written from the Plan - one for $500 to participant and one for a $100 processing fee for the distribution? Or do the fees have to be paid outside of the Plan?
Failed Roth Conversion
We have a failed roth conversion. If we inform the IRA provider that the IRS is taking the position that we have a failed conversion, will the IRA provider simply allow the taxpayer to move the assets out of the Roth without issuing a 1099? Do they report anything to the IRS?
Multiple companies
If a company whos main office is located in Kentucky has various other locations in other states, WV, FL, IN, etc....they put a cafeteria plan into place and offer to all employees eligible in all locations, is the cafeteria plan governed by ky law since that is the main office or do all of the states apply and you need to find out how the states differ to manage the cafeteria plan?
Form 5500
Does a 401-k plan that is not eligible for Form 5500-EZ have to file a 5500 if they have less than $100,000 in assets? They have never had over that amount (a new plan started 01/01/2008)?? I'm thinking they do, but not 100%.
Severance benefits paid from Pension Plan
I've searched for info on this topic to no avail and am hopeful someone can lead me to more information.
I have a client that pays severance benefits from its over-funded pension plans (yes, they do exist!), both DB and Cash Balance plans. My contacts at the company (in Treasury) have been unable to give me details on the mechanics. My vague understanding (perhaps incorrect) is that an employee is given an option to receive a severance benefit in a lump-sum, or to take it as an addition to their retirement account or ultimate pension payments. (most take the lump sum, of course).
Can anyone who is familiar with this arrangement lead me to more information?
Another, related question: Can a Supplemental Unemployment Benefits Plan (SUB Plan or SUB Pay) Trust under 501©(17) be funded with Pension distributions?
Thanks,
Joe
Effective Availability
I know this is asking for the obvious, but does anyone have any authority for the position that 1.401(a)(4)-4© only requires that a benefit right or feature be available on a non-discriminatory basis, and that there is no requirement that any NHCEs actually take advantage of the BRF, as long as it is available to them and they knew about it?
We have a situation where self-direction was available to all participants and it was in the SPD, but no NHCEs took advantage of it, so we're getting heat from the reviewing IRS agent.
Another PPA anomaly
Can the effective rate be outside the range of the interest segments??
For example, a plan has a 5%, 5% Applicable actuarial equivalence and the sole participant is 62 retiring at 65. There is no effective rate within the range (assuming a 1/1/2009 valuation) of interest segments that will work.
Another PPA anomaly???
412i conversion
A client is converting a 412i plan back to a regular DB plan. The primary issue appears to be that the PPA valuation reflects 100% lump sums. However, the proposed regulation method which uses the interest segments and the plan PVAB are producing a funding target less than the current lump sums in the policies. Is it acceptable to set the funding target equal to the grandfathered lump sums (knowing these are not moving and will disappear over a period of years)??
This could also create the problem where although there are benefits accruing that the normal cost is zero because the minimum lump sums have not been reached.
QDRO for DB vs DC?
DC Plan client (I'm the TPA) forwarded a presumably "proposed QDRO" to me for initial review and input. First and foremost - I do not even begin to presume or purport to have the knowledge and/or experience to deem whether a "DRO" is qualified or not - but can usually point out any "glaring" issues - and then recommend forwarding "to counsel" for review and opinion.
Apparently, the participant's now ex-spouse (trying to save a few bucks) attempted a "do-it-yourself" QDRO and was able to get her attorney to file it with the court.
The proposed QDRO appears to me - at first blush, anyway - to contain language more pertinent to a DB Plan than to a DC Plan. I am posting this just for general feedback from the more learned and experienced of you out there.
Following is some of the language contained in the proposed QDRO (all "emphasis" has been added by me):
The Alternate Payee's award is payable for "the duration of the Participant's lifetime".
The Alternate Payee's interest in the Plan is to be determined by the following formula: A marital fraction multiplied by 50% and then multiplied by the Participant's "accrued benefit at benefit commencement".
The Alternate Payee's benefit shall be paid to the Alternate Payee in such form "as elected by the Participant" (?!) at the Participant's benefit commencement.
In the event of the Alternate Payee's death, either prior to or after the commencement of the Alternate Payee's benefit, the Alternate Payee's benefit "will revert to the Participant". (Sounds like a CSI - Pension Crimes Unit plot/motive to me!)
In addition, there are other references to "standard actuarial assumptions", "early retirement factors", "post retirement increases" - all of which lead me to believe that this is "way off base" for a DC Plan QDRO - or am I?
Thanks for any and all comments.
Lump Sum versus Installments
Does a lump sum distribution mean one complete distribution of the account balance? Participant is terminated and only wants to take part of his account balance. Can he do this if the plan only allows for lump sum distributions? If the Plan were to add installments as a form of distribution do they have to take so much money for so many years? We certainly don't want to offer the annuity option.
401(k) deferral election exceeds available compensation (after deductions for payroll taxes, court ordered payments, loan repayments...)
According to an employer's payroll practices (not covered in the plan document), payroll taxes, court ordered payments, loan repayments (etc) are deducted from a participant's paycheck before elective deferrals to the participant's 401(k). Recently, the employer has encountered the situation where there is not enough money in the participant's paycheck (after the above listed deductions) to cover the 401(k) deferral elected by the participant. The plan document states that "the amount which the employee elects or agrees to be contributed to the plan shall be the amount by which the employee's compensation is reduced."
Is there any guidance on what the employer should do here (may the employer skip the deduction altogether (with no opportunity for make-up) or must any available amount be deducted and a corresponding contribution to the 401(k) be made)?
This topic was discussed in the April 2008 thread "401(k) elective deferral hierarchy," but no consensus was reached. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you!
Rights to allocation
New Comparability calendar year plan has two allocation groups, each with an allocation % defined in the plan document. No hours requirement or last day rule to receive an allocation, basically if you work an hour of service you're entitled to an allocation. Employer would like to amend plan to remove the fixed allocation percentages and make contribution amount discretionary and only provide defined contribution amounts up to the plan amendment effective date. Can this be done during the plan year? It has been my understanding that once a participant meets the requirements for an annual allocation he/she must receive the allocation amount in the document at that time. Thanks.













