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- Participants from the terminating plan will not be moving into the acquiring plan. Instead they are moving to a new 401k plan that will be set up by using the same EIN.
- They could wait to transfer amounts from the old plan to the new plan until the IRS has responded to the VCP filing However, there’s no guarantee of that. If it takes longer than that, they would reevaluate
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As per they counsel the plan was terminated BEFORE closing. The options for distributions/transfers will be different for pre-closing contributions and earnings versus post-closing contributions and earnings.
Counsel has stated Contributions and earnings for pre-closing payroll period: Participants must be given the right to take a distribution of their accounts for pre-closing contributions and earnings. They will be offered the option to have these amounts transferred/rolled over to the new plan. Contributions and earnings for post-closing pay periods: These should not be distributed. Post-closing contributions and earnings would be transferred automatically to the new plan (if approved by the IRS).
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Can inherited IRA be rolled into a PS plan?
Hi
A question for someone.
I inherited an IRA from my parent. Can I roll over this IRA into my profit sharing plan?
Thank you
SCP Not in EPCRS Specifically
Let's say there is a problem with a 401k plan and we come up with a fair correction method not listed in EPCRS. Is automatically ineligible for SCP treatmnt out of hand because its not listed? Or if we went with this outside-the-box-correction, is the correction acceptable assuming an IRS auditor thinks it was reasonable and justified.
I don't want this question to be distracted by a particular fact pattern. My question really is just is there flexibility for SCP corrections not specifically delineated (in my case the issue is that the fact pattern is not listed in EPCRS). I completely understand that there would always be risk under audit that the auditor could find fault. This correction involves 1 person and is therefore not remotely in the zone for a costly VCP filing.
IRA distribution - 1099R coded as 5 Prohibited Transaction
I have an IRA which was entirely funded with embezzled funds. The employee embezzled funds from the employer into the er 401(k). The 401(k) distributed the account into an IRA. The IRA was distributed to the account owner. (The embezzlement information did not come to light until after these events.) I am thinking the appropriate code for the 1099-R distribution from the IRA is code 5 Prohibited Transaction as the account was funded by the employee who embezzled funds. The gross distribution would be the amount distributed,, the taxable amount would be the earnings on the distributed funds.
My thoughts are that it would be ok and be the closest explanation as to why taxes and penalty taxes are not being withheld?
What do you think?
Lifetime Income Illustration - SECURE Act
My understanding is for self directed 401(k) accounts - that the Income illustrations must be reflected on the June 30th statement. What are administration firms doing that have plans that utilize brokerage accounts? I do not believe broker dealers and going to show the illustrations and the simple answer is to make sure the compliance reporting and statements are prepared before June 30th (for those plans not utilizing a nice recordkeeping platform). However, that might not be that simple for my firm to accommodate (a. need to identify these particular plans, b. document restatements due) - Just wondering if anyone had any creative thoughts they are willing to share, heard if it might get extended, would doing by 10/15 in these cases be considered okay?, etc. Thanks in advance for any comments.
Paying fees on behalf of plan
Can a service provider agree to pay fees that would have otherwise been charged by a different provider and taken from plan assets?
VCP Filing for missed PPA restatement
I have just inherited a new client, and, in looking at their documents, there was never a PPA restatement filed before April 30, 2016; the last document that I was provided was the EGTRRA restatement.
The client searched their records and they agree that the PPA restatement was never prepared, and have authorized the preparation of the PPA document and the VCP filing.
In 35 years in this business, I've never had to do a VCP filing, thankfully. My only question on this is: What should be the effective date of the PPA restatement? Is it something before 4/30/2016 (like 1/1/16), or should it be current, say 1/1/2022?
Thanks for any replies.
402g Excess - Withholding Requirement on Small excess
Is there a minimum 402g excess that does not require the Plan Administrator to provide a notice to the participant regarding making a withholding election? We have a 402g excess of $12.
Thank you.
Sale of art work by a Money Purchase Plan
A Money Purchase Plan invested in art work that has appreciated in value. The art work will be sold by the Plan in state. Typically when art wok is sold within state, sales tax must be paid. Are there any justifications for to a qualified ERISA plan being exempt from state sales tax upon sale of a plan asset, art work? I don't see an ERISA preemption argument since the art work will leave the plan and be taxed as a non-plan asset when distributed and sold.
Definition of Benefit In A Cash Balance Plan
What's the best way to word the definition of the pay credit in a Cash Balance Plan, if you want to allow it to rise each year? I'm not an actuary, but I've seen charts that show limitations for Cash Balance contributions based on their age (like a 40-year old may only be able to contribution $100,000).
I know it's not the 415 limitation, so just trying to figure out the best way.
I apologize for all of the questions, I'm just trying to learn more about these plans so I can be more helpful to the people in my office.
Thanks in advance!
Roth IRA's under proposed RMD regulations
Hi - these scenario pertains to ROTH IRA's - issues center around the role/rights of a surviving spouse beneficiary and also multiple beneficiaries when one is not an eligible designated beneficiary.
Husband & wife each have Roth IRA's and are both older than 72. Primary beneficiary on each is the spouse and there are 6 contingent non-spouse non-child beneficiaries who share equally. 5 of the contingent beneficiaries are <10 years younger (thus, eligible designated beneficiaries) and one is >10 years younger (thus, a non-eligible designated beneficiary).
Husband dies first - wife survives and changes ownership of his Roth IRA to wife before the end of the year following his death. She names the 6 people (per above) as her beneficiaries.
Questions:
1. Must wife take any RMD's from this Roth account during her lifetime?
2. Since one beneficiary is a non-EDB, upon wife's death, do the other beneficiaries lose their ability to use the 10 year exception (lifetime stretch)? See §1.401(a)(9)-4 (e)(2) multiple designated beneficiaries.
3. If after wife's death each beneficiary rolled their respective amount to a separate inherited IRA (in a manner similar to that outlined in §1.401(a)(9)-8(a) for separate accounting in a qualified plan), would the EDB's be able to use the 10 year exception (lifetime stretch)?
4. If 2 & 3 don't preserve the 10 year exception (lifetime stretch) for the EDB's, is there some other way to preserve it?
5. If the non-EDB rolls over her portion to an inherited Roth IRA, would RMD's be needed in years 1-9, or just full distribution by year 10?
Thanks for your input/help!
Rule 701 and Equity Grants to Foreign Employees
A private US based company has two equity plans, one for granting options in the US and one for granting warrants in an EU country. (As I understand it, they grant warrants to comply with local law).
I would think the foreign grants are included in the Rule 701 analysis, but I'm getting a different story from a record keeper and I can't seem to find any guidance on the matter. Anyone have thoughts or a good resource to point me to?
Amend owner out of plan then back in--discrimination?
A few years ago, sponsor amended plan to exclude by name two partners (there are several other partners in the plan).
Now they want to remove that exclusion.
Are there any discrimination issues given the fact that the amendment only affects HCEs?
I wouldn't think so because the HCEs aren't getting special treatment per se. They've otherwise satisfied the age/service conditions. It's not like they are being let in early.
I just want to make sure I'm not overlooking anything.
Very wealthy doctor
I have a medical practice as a client maintaining a 401(k) plan. One of the doctors owns 100% of the practice. Another doctor, age 33 and not an owner just an employee, is also participating in the plan. This 2nd doctor has a W-2 in excess of 3.3 million dollars. He also maintains an LLC which does medical consulting (totally separate from the original medical practice) that generates about $100,000 @ year. He would like to shelter more money than he is currently doing.
Question: Is there anyway that he can shift some of his earnings from the original practice, where he is an employee, to the LLC that he owns 100%?
401(k) on ineligible nontaxable comp refunded - tax treatment
Non taxable fringe benefits - not eligible for 401(k) per plan comp definition but plan applied rate of 401(k) election and deposited it into the plan.
Amount has been refunded and 1099-R will be issued. Does this now become taxable income for year of refund?
Cost to print and mail enrollment kits--acceptable plan expense?
Plan has online enrollment, but from time to time they get hardcopy enrollment kits mailed out. The sponsor is billed $x for each hard copy.
I that an acceptable expense that can be paid out of the forfeiture account?
Lifetime Income illustrations
Under the SECURE Act, Lifetime Income Illustrations are required to be provided to participants in participant-directed plans. The first illustration is due on any quarterly statement up to June 30, 2022. For plans on platforms such as Voya or the American Funds, the fund company is providing this illustration. How is anyone handling the illustrations for participants self-directing in brokerage accounts?
403(b) by doctor at hospital - effects on his practice's DB/DC combo.
Hi folks.
Doctor does some 403(b) deferrals at the hospital. But he also has his own practice. (No deferrals for him there.)
I know that the 403(b) deferrals count against the 415(c) limit under the practice's profit sharing plan.
But would they also get included in the 401(a)(4) average benefits percentage test for the practice's cash balance and 401(k)/profit sharing plans?
Thanks.
--Bri
two small plans merge mid year, when do they become a large plan filer?
A single employer maintains two calendar year plans to avoid the audit. On January 1, 2022 Plan A has 90 participants and Plan B has 90 participants and both plans are identical from a benefits standpoint. On July 1, 2022 Plan B will merge into Plan A (waiting until 1/1/2023 to merge is not an option due to other business reasons).
On July 1, 2022 Plan A will have 180 participants approximately.
Is Plan A a large plan filer beginning on January 1, 2023? Or does the mid year merger have any impact on making them a large filer for 2022? I am being told they will require an audit for 2022 and can't figure out the reasoning why and the person telling me this can't provide any support for their reasoning.
Thank you
Stock acquisition/Controlled group
Hi,
Good Morning!
One of the plan is terminating due to stock acquisition and the term date and sale date happens to be the same date 01/2022, however there has been contribution (employees) coming into the plan until 03/2022. As per their counsel this is not a successor plan and they have filed for VCP, also the acquiring company is part of a controlled group and they counsel has also stated a consent to terminate the plan was adopted BEFORE closing and before the entity became part of a controlled group with other entities.
Couple of things.
I've handled successor plan previously however this is something completely new, this is something doable? Will there not be a successor plan situation?
Thanks
Trustee Documents on Cycle 3 restatements
Since the new rule with trustee agreements not being pre-approved, I have seen some things I am not accustomed to.
Specifically, I have seen documents executed with the only trust agreement being one for a directed trustee So no corporate discretionary trustee and nothing with the employer acknowledging their responsibilities. Perhaps I am just having amnesia since last restatement period, but doesn't there have to be something beyond just a directed trustee?













