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    Mistitled Inherited IRA. Any recourse?

    Philster
    By Philster,

    My brother wasn't careful sending money from his Vanguard "Our deceased dad's name inherited IRA" to a new bank cd that is now titled "Brother's name IRA". He asked for the Vanguard check to be sent to new bank in his personal name. Went directly to them, not thru him. The bank he opened it in doesn't even offer inherited IRAs so he checked off "traditional ira" on application. Money was never comingled with his regular IRA elsewhere.

    CD was opened 18 months ago, and Vanguard is indicating they aren't going to help. 

    RMDs have been taken based on stretch method (dad died 4 years ago).

    If we cant get banks to retitle is there any other recourse? Since IRS will be getting same tax from RMDs either way, would they even notice or care about title on the 1099 R? Thanks.

    EDIT I believe there is a code 7 vs code 4 on 1099r indicating it is inherited vs traditional, but would IRS even look at that to compare to previous year, as long as correct rmd taken?

    EDIT 2 he just noticed his Form 5498 from bank listed entire cd as IRA contribution for 2020, when the money came from vanguard. I assume my brother never even gave this form to our accountant.


    Lost Wages

    Dazednconfused
    By Dazednconfused,

    Participant terminated in 2018, in 2021 agreed to a settlement, part of which wage income of $6k monetary consideration for disputed lost wages. The wages were paid as w-2, nothing in the settlement addresses plan contributions.  I am on the fence if this should be considered back pay and allocated an allocation based on 2018, I read 415(c)-2(g)(8) but wondering if the 'disputed lost wage' would have otherwise been included (such as underpaid for hours worked).


    Partic termed in late Dec '20 but paid in early Jan--in ADP test?

    BG5150
    By BG5150,

    I don't have access to the EOB at the moment, I thought this was addressed in there.

    Participant terminates December 28, 2020,  but the next pay date is January 5, 2021.

    Is she in the 2021 ADP test even though she did NOT perform services for the employer in 2021? 

     


    Another IRS denial of extension request - with a twist!

    Brenda Wren
    By Brenda Wren,

    We filed 2 extensions for 2 plans with plan year ending 4/30/21.  The extensions were sent to Ogden, Utah, return receipt requested on November 3, 2021.  One envelope, two extensions. We typically file extensions one month before the due date.  Today, one of our clients received a denial of the extension request.  Upon closer review of the crumpled, torn-up return receipt from the US Post Office, the stamped date of receipt was December 6, 2021.  While this is after November 30, most assuredly the envelope was mailed in time as the US Post Office could never deliver anything from Florida to Utah in 6 days!    So we notified the other client that they would likely receive a denial as well.  Well, guess what?  They received their letter from IRS today, too!  But theirs WAS APPROVED!

    It's a darn shame that we are at the mercy of IRS and the US Post Office.  This is totally unfair to all of us and our clients.  IRS should immediately develop a system to electronically file extensions!  Or do away with the 7 month deadline all together!  It is painfully obvious that they do not have the manpower to conduct their "business".  It took them 2 1/2 months to process a form!  We are basically powerless to do anything other than pay $750 and file under the Delinquent Filing program.  Not worth the aggravation to fight it or risk it for our client.  I guess we need to file these 2 months early to TRY to avoid the problem we had with the 2019 filings.  I don't think they got around to processing those requests until the following year!

    Has anyone figured out how IRS is able to have their letters delivered on the date they issue them?  Time travel?


    Contradictory instructions on EFAST web site

    Khatva
    By Khatva,
    I'm trying to sign and submit a 5500ez on EFAST as a sole proprietor (both employer and plan administrator).  The instructions on the DOL web site are terrible.
     
    On the "add signers" page (as well as the users guide, I believe), it says:
     

    Here are some things to consider when adding signers:

    If the same person serves as both the plan sponsor and plan administrator, that person should check both "Plan Administrator" and "Plan Sponsor" boxes.

    If one person serves in multiple roles, you need only add that person once as they will be able to sign for multiple roles at one time.

     

    However, on the signature page itself, it says:
     
    * Please select the role(s) for which you are signing. You may select all that apply.  

    <checkbox> Plan Administrator

    <checkbox> Employer

     
    <checkbox> Service Provider using E-signature alternative option (reference EFAST2 FAQ 33a)
     
    If the same person serves as both the plan employer and plan administrator, that person should check only one of the "Plan Administrator" or "Plan Employer" boxes.
    SignCancel

    The IRS Code permits either the plan sponsor/employer or the administrator to sign the filing. However, any Form 5500 that is not electronically signed by the plan administrator will be subject to rejection and civil penalties under Title I of ERISA.
     
    I bolded the relevant sentences.  The site literally contradicts itself.  The page for adding signers says "If the same person serves as both the plan sponsor and plan administrator, that person should check both "Plan Administrator" and "Plan Sponsor" boxes."  The actual signing page says "If the same person serves as both the plan employer and plan administrator, that person should check only one of the "Plan Administrator" or "Plan Employer" boxes."
     
    To validly sign the 5500ez, do I check both boxes, as I am both employer and plan administrator (and sponsor), or do I only check the "plan administrator" box?
     

    Service Spanning rules and entry date

    BG5150
    By BG5150,

    Plan specs:  age 21, 2 mos service, monthly entry.

    Participant:

    DOH  3/7/21

    DOT  4/29/21 (not 2 month svc)

    RH  10/5/21

    When is entry date?  Rehire date or 11/1/21?

    Slight change

    DOH  3/7/21

    DOT  5/17/21 (2 months but did not make entry date)

    RH  10/5/21

    When is entry date?  Rehire date or 11/1/21?


    Retired or Terminated for purposes of Match

    Pammie57
    By Pammie57,

    Client sold business  in 2021.  They have a 401k Plan with a discretionary match (calculated after year end)  The three owners are all over the age of 65 (NRA per the plan doc); their plan does not allocate the discretionary match to terminated participants.  Could we consider them retired instead of terminated at the date of the sale, and allocate them a match for the year?  I know at the time of the sale nobody was focusing on the plan.....  


    Might it make sense to omit a cash-out provision?

    Peter Gulia
    By Peter Gulia,

    In some volunteer work for a charity designing a new retirement plan, here’s a question I’m thinking about.

    Assumptions

    The plan’s investment alternatives are Vanguard and other managers’ mutual funds, with superior share classes obtained through the (independent) recordkeeper’s and its custodian’s omnibus purchasing power. None of the funds pays over any revenue-sharing or other indirect compensation.

    The employer pays nothing toward plan-administration expenses. (The charity’s executive director and board chairperson both tell me they can’t get grants or fundraise for any contribution to, or expense of, a retirement plan, and can’t budget for either.) So, all expenses are charged to individuals’ accounts.

    The absence of an involuntary cash-out provision won’t risk putting the participant count near the number that would invoke a CPA’s audit of the plan’s financial statements. That’s so for at least the next few years.

    Beyond maintaining former employees’ goodwill (which the charity cares about), does such an employer have its own economic stake about whether low-balance participants involuntarily exit the plan, or may, by choice, remain in the plan? Are there factors I’m not thinking about?

    For a participant who has only her $3,000 account, which is better: Staying in the former employer’s plan, or choosing a rollover into an IRA? (To simplify the comparison, assume the individual has no next employer, or the next employer has no retirement plan.) Is the individual’s choice as simple (mostly) as comparing the account charge under the former employer’s plan to the account charge of the IRA the individual could or would buy? Or are there more factors to consider?

    Your thoughts?


    Workplace Health Programs Study

    jsantisi
    By jsantisi,

    The Integrated Benefits Institute released a report last week on workplace health programs and thought it may be of interest to you given your coverage of workplace and HR topics. Some highlights of IBI’s analysis include:

    • Only 46% of workplaces offer health programs
    • Employers are not measuring critical metrics of success, such as absenteeism, presenteeism, and turnover
    • Only 50% of workplaces collect data at all to measure success, and half use data to decide which programs to offer
    • Offering workplace health programs can help employers gain a competitive edge in attraction/retention, especially important during the Great Resignation

    For more information, the report and infographic are available on IBI’s website.


    Accelerating vesting of early-exercised stock?

    beiser
    By beiser,

    Imagine that an employee at a startup is granted a number of ISOs, which are early-exercised with an 83(b).

    A few years later, with those partially vested, and the fair market value of the shares substantially higher, he comes to a shared agreement with the CEO of the company to increase his stock compensation.

    Is it possible to increase the rate at which the fully-exercised stock grant is vested, or would there need to be an additional grant issued at a different price to run concurrently?

    It's unclear to me how the early exercise would interact with 424(h)3c—were the ISOs here "options not immediately exercisable in full"? 


    Any controlled group issues?

    Jakyasar
    By Jakyasar,

    Hi

    Joe and Mary are spouses and have no children under age 21. They do not live in a community state.

    Company A is owned 100% by Joe and has employees. No pension plans.

    Company B is owned 50/50 by Joe and Mary but Mary is not an employee. There are no other employees, just Joe. No pension plans

    Company C is owned 100% by Mary and Mary is the only employee. A DB plan is in effect covering Mary only.

    None of these companies interact with each other and they all do different lines of work.

    What issues are there?

    Thank you


    FAILED ADP/ACP TEST and HCEs terminated and already took 100% of their account

    Pammie57
    By Pammie57,

    Client company sold and all of the HCE's terminated in May 2021.  They immediately took distributions.  Now as I run the ADP/ACP test I find that a corrective distribution was due one of them.  Do they need to have the Platform reissue the 1099R and if they rolled the funds - do they have to withdraw it from their IRA?  


    Relius ASP log in

    pmacduff
    By pmacduff,

    I did post an incident to FIS but in the meantime am wondering if anyone else has heard when they are going to update the log in for ASP to use something more updated than Internet Explorer?  We are getting the messages now that Internet Explorer will no longer be supported after June, 2022.  We are surprised that FIS had not already migrated ASP to another browser...

    Thanks in advance!


    Last Day Rule but Wants to Allocate Terminated Participants

    Logan401
    By Logan401,

    I have a client that wants to fund a discretionary profit-sharing contribution and would like to include terminated participants. The plan has the last day rule. Can this be done by adding language to the declaration? It is not taking any benefit away from active participants such as lowering the allocations they are receiving.

    This doesn't come up very often, so I appreciate any insight.


    Warrants given to charitable trust controlled by family- are they still synthetic equity

    ESOP Guy
    By ESOP Guy,

    I have an ESOP where the family that sold the stock to the ESOP received warrants when the sale was closed.  That is clearly synthetic equity. 

    In 2021 the family give some of the warrants to a charitable trust they control but the assets in the trust have to be used for charitable purposes. 

    Are those  warrants still synthetic equity?

    Am am leaning towards no since no one in the family is a beneficiary of the trust but I am not finding a direct cite.  Does anyone know of a direct cite or has a thought let me know. 


    Can this plan FILE with an SF?

    SSRRS
    By SSRRS,

    Hi,

    A DB Plan at year end receives the following statement in regard to their plan assets:

                                                                                                                                Levonte Capital                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Capital Statement 12/31/2021

                                                                                              Asset 1 -Howard Avenue  $250,000

                                                                                             Asset 2  Clearstream            500,000

                                                                                             Asset3  Flushing Ave             600,000

                                                                                              Total Plan assest               $ 1,350,000

    Is this considered eligible assets for an SF? Thank you.


    Compensation Used For EBAR Calculation

    metsfan026
    By metsfan026,

    I'm having a tough time finding it in our document, but are you allowed to exclude compensation received prior to becoming a Plan participant in Cash Balance Plans (specifically in the EBAR calculation)?  We have it set that way for the Profit Sharing Plan, just wanted to see if we could for the Cash Balance as well?  I'm leaning no, but wanted to confirm.


    Profit sharing allocation requirement - anti-cutback

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    This may seem like a stupid question.

    Suppose a plan currently has a last day/1,000 hour requirement, but allocation requirements are waived for anyone who terminates after attaining NRA or Early Retirement Date. Now they want to amend the plan to eliminate this waiver.

    Clearly, if someone already terminated employment this year and has attained ERA/NRD, this amendment won't apply to them. But what if someone has attained ERD/NRA, but has not yet terminated employment? Is it ok to apply to them for 2022, or can it not apply to them until 2023?

    Is the determining factor the termination of employment - in other words, since they haven't terminated employment yet, is there no cutback? Or would you interpret it similar to a plan where there is a 500 hour requirement with no last day, so that as soon as you get 500 hours, you are eligible for that year? (So that in this case, as long as you have already attained ERD/NRA, you are eligible for this year?) I incline toward this latter interpretation, but I can see the argument for the "dark side."

    Granted that the plan is everyone in their own group, not a safe harbor, and not top heavy, so that it may be possible to exclude them anyway...

     


    Contested (apparently ugly) divorce, GAL appointed for minor, restraining order on respondent.

    Thornton
    By Thornton,

    I've been drafting QDROs for 6 years and haven't seen this situation before. I'm told by the attorney who retained me to draft the QDRO that the Participant/Petitioner's address cannot be in the QDRO due to a restraining order or something against the Alternate Payee/Respondent. It can be excluded from the body of QDRO but listed in the Appendix to the QDRO . The Appendix is not filed with the court but included when the QDRO is sent to the plan administrator for processing. A GAL has been appointed by the court to represent the minor children.

    1. If the attorney does want not the Participant's address even in the Appendix, does anyone have an opinion on whether or not the plan administrator will qualify the DRO without the Participant's address anywhere?

    2. Does the GAL need to sign the QDRO? 

    Thanks.


    Employer contributions based on hour worked?

    kmhaab
    By kmhaab,

    Is it permissible to have a DC plan in which employer contributions are a flat amount per hour worked? i.e., $2.50 per hour?  I can't find anything that specifically prohibits this approach, but I am not comfortable that it is allowed.  

    Employer is trying to move away from a union pension with an hourly accrual rate. 

    Thanks in advance!

     


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