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    Company Reimbursement of Pre-Tax Employee Contributions

    Guest GARNETT
    By Guest GARNETT,

    A client sponsors a medical insurance plan for its employees. The employees pay for a portion of the medical insurance with pre-tax contributions. For example,

    Example 1.

    Compensation $3,000.00 per month

    Medical Insur. 200.00

    Net Compensation $2,800.00

    FICA 173.60

    Medicare Tax 40.60

    Federal Withholding 560.00

    State Withholding 140.00

    Local Withholding 52.50

    Total Tax and W/H 966.70

    Net Compensation $1,833.30

    Take Home Pay $1,833.30

    The client has been approached by a consulting firm that claims that the company can shift more of the cost for the medical insurance to the employees by asking the employees to use more of their pre-tax dollars to purchase the insurance while, at the same time, reimbursing the employees (tax-free) for the increase. This is the example the consulting firm uses:

    Example 2.

    Compensation $3,000.00 per month

    Medical Insur. 500.00

    Net Compensation $2,500.00

    FICA 155.00

    Medicare Tax 36.25

    Federal Withholding 500.00

    State Withholding 125.00

    Local Withholding 52.50

    Total Tax and W/H 868.75

    Net Compensation $1,631.25

    Reimbursement 202.05 (tax-free)

    Take Home Pay $1,833.30

    The employee takes home the same income in Example 1 as she does in Example 2. The consulting firm "pitching" this "scheme" further claims that the employer, incurs the following savings:

    Example 3.

    FICA/Medicare $45.90

    Workers Compensation 3.00

    Federal Tax 60.00

    State Tax 15.00

    Total Savings $123.90/month

    Annualized Savings/Employee $1,486.80

    Annualized Savings for 100 employees is $148,679.74 (i.e., $1,486.80 times 100).

    While this scheme appears to me to be a double-dip not generally authorized by the tax-code, i.e., the first dip is the pre-tax contribution made by the employee and the second dip is the reimbursement of a portion of that pre-tax contribution by the employer (again tax-free), the consulting firm claims that it has set-up this program for a wide-range of clients including a Fortune 500 company.

    I have two questions: (1) Has anyone every heard of a program like this and (2) Does anyone else question whether such a scheme is permissible under the tax code?

    Thank you for your responses.


    Company Reimbursement of Pre-Tax Employee Contributions

    Guest GARNETT
    By Guest GARNETT,

    A client sponsors a medical insurance plan for its employees. The employees pay for a portion of the medical insurance with pre-tax contributions. For example,

    Example 1.

    Compensation $3,000.00 per month

    Medical Insur. 200.00

    Net Compensation $2,800.00

    FICA 173.60

    Medicare Tax 40.60

    Federal Withholding 560.00

    State Withholding 140.00

    Local Withholding 52.50

    Total Tax and W/H 966.70

    Net Compensation $1,833.30

    Take Home Pay $1,833.30

    The client has been approached by a consulting firm that claims that the company can shift more of the cost for the medical insurance to the employees by asking the employees to use more of their pre-tax dollars to purchase the insurance while, at the same time, reimbursing the employees (tax-free) for the increase. This is the example the consulting firm uses:

    Example 2.

    Compensation $3,000.00 per month

    Medical Insur. 500.00

    Net Compensation $2,500.00

    FICA 155.00

    Medicare Tax 36.25

    Federal Withholding 500.00

    State Withholding 125.00

    Local Withholding 52.50

    Total Tax and W/H 868.75

    Net Compensation $1,631.25

    Reimbursement 202.05 (tax-free)

    Take Home Pay $1,833.30

    The employee takes home the same income in Example 1 as she does in Example 2. The consulting firm "pitching" this "scheme" further claims that the employer, incurs the following savings:

    Example 3.

    FICA/Medicare $45.90

    Workers Compensation 3.00

    Federal Tax 60.00

    State Tax 15.00

    Total Savings $123.90/month

    Annualized Savings/Employee $1,486.80

    Annualized Savings for 100 employees is $148,679.74 (i.e., $1,486.80 times 100).

    While this scheme appears to me to be a double-dip not generally authorized by the tax-code, i.e., the first dip is the pre-tax contribution made by the employee and the second dip is the reimbursement of a portion of that pre-tax contribution by the employer (again tax-free), the consulting firm claims that it has set-up this program for a wide-range of clients including a Fortune 500 company.

    I have two questions: (1) Has anyone every heard of a program like this and (2) Does anyone else question whether such a scheme is permissible under the tax code?

    Thank you for your responses.


    Company Reimbursement of Pre-Tax Employee Contributions

    Guest GARNETT
    By Guest GARNETT,

    A client sponsors a medical insurance plan for its employees. The employees pay for a portion of the medical insurance with pre-tax contributions. For example,

    Example 1.

    Compensation $3,000.00 per month

    Medical Insur. 200.00

    Net Compensation $2,800.00

    FICA 173.60

    Medicare Tax 40.60

    Federal Withholding 560.00

    State Withholding 140.00

    Local Withholding 52.50

    Total Tax and W/H 966.70

    Net Compensation $1,833.30

    Take Home Pay $1,833.30

    The client has been approached by a consulting firm that claims that the company can shift more of the cost for the medical insurance to the employees by asking the employees to use more of their pre-tax dollars to purchase the insurance while, at the same time, reimbursing the employees (tax-free) for the increase. This is the example the consulting firm uses:

    Example 2.

    Compensation $3,000.00 per month

    Medical Insur. 500.00

    Net Compensation $2,500.00

    FICA 155.00

    Medicare Tax 36.25

    Federal Withholding 500.00

    State Withholding 125.00

    Local Withholding 52.50

    Total Tax and W/H 868.75

    Net Compensation $1,631.25

    Reimbursement 202.05 (tax-free)

    Take Home Pay $1,833.30

    The employee takes home the same income in Example 1 as she does in Example 2. The consulting firm "pitching" this "scheme" further claims that the employer, incurs the following savings:

    Example 3.

    FICA/Medicare $45.90

    Workers Compensation 3.00

    Federal Tax 60.00

    State Tax 15.00

    Total Savings $123.90/month

    Annualized Savings/Employee $1,486.80

    Annualized Savings for 100 employees is $148,679.74 (i.e., $1,486.80 times 100).

    While this scheme appears to me to be a double-dip not generally authorized by the tax-code, i.e., the first dip is the pre-tax contribution made by the employee and the second dip is the reimbursement of a portion of that pre-tax contribution by the employer (again tax-free), the consulting firm claims that it has set-up this program for a wide-range of clients including a Fortune 500 company.

    I have two questions: (1) Has anyone every heard of a program like this and (2) Does anyone else question whether such a scheme is permissible under the tax code?

    Thank you for your responses.


    Company Reimbursement of Pre-Tax Employee Contributions

    Guest GARNETT
    By Guest GARNETT,

    A client sponsors a medical insurance plan for its employees. The employees pay for a portion of the medical insurance with pre-tax contributions. For example,

    Example 1.

    Compensation $3,000.00 per month

    Medical Insur. 200.00

    Net Compensation $2,800.00

    FICA 173.60

    Medicare Tax 40.60

    Federal Withholding 560.00

    State Withholding 140.00

    Local Withholding 52.50

    Total Tax and W/H 966.70

    Net Compensation $1,833.30

    Take Home Pay $1,833.30

    The client has been approached by a consulting firm that claims that the company can shift more of the cost for the medical insurance to the employees by asking the employees to use more of their pre-tax dollars to purchase the insurance while, at the same time, reimbursing the employees (tax-free) for the increase. This is the example the consulting firm uses:

    Example 2.

    Compensation $3,000.00 per month

    Medical Insur. 500.00

    Net Compensation $2,500.00

    FICA 155.00

    Medicare Tax 36.25

    Federal Withholding 500.00

    State Withholding 125.00

    Local Withholding 52.50

    Total Tax and W/H 868.75

    Net Compensation $1,631.25

    Reimbursement 202.05 (tax-free)

    Take Home Pay $1,833.30

    The employee takes home the same income in Example 1 as she does in Example 2. The consulting firm "pitching" this "scheme" further claims that the employer, incurs the following savings:

    Example 3.

    FICA/Medicare $45.90

    Workers Compensation 3.00

    Federal Tax 60.00

    State Tax 15.00

    Total Savings $123.90/month

    Annualized Savings/Employee $1,486.80

    Annualized Savings for 100 employees is $148,679.74 (i.e., $1,486.80 times 100).

    While this scheme appears to me to be a double-dip not generally authorized by the tax-code, i.e., the first dip is the pre-tax contribution made by the employee and the second dip is the reimbursement of a portion of that pre-tax contribution by the employer (again tax-free), the consulting firm claims that it has set-up this program for a wide-range of clients including a Fortune 500 company.

    I have two questions: (1) Has anyone every heard of a program like this and (2) Does anyone else question whether such a scheme is permissible under the tax code?

    Thank you for your responses.


    Trust named as beneficiary in 1990

    Guest Reed
    By Guest Reed,

    Can an IRA which named the beneficiary as the person's trust qualify under the new provisions even though the beneficiary designation was made in 1990? If so, if the individual has deceased, can I still provide the required documentation to the plan administrator within 9 months of the date of death?


    What are safe-harbor notice requirements for brand new plan (but not n

    John A
    By John A,

    Does the 30-day timing apply to a long-existing company that wants to establish a brand new safe-harbor 401(k) plan, or what is the timing requirement for the notice? I'm confused when I read Notice 98-52 as to whether the exception to the 30-day requirement applies to all brand new plans or only to plans of new entities. Thanks.


    COBRA for Retro. Cancellation

    Christine Roberts
    By Christine Roberts,

    If an employer fails to terminate health coverage when an employee goes from full- to part-time, and later discovers the oversight, is it okay to cancel coverage retroactively and allow the employee to pay COBRA premiums for the retroactively terminated months? Or would the COBRA notice be deemed late, since not within the statutory period from the retroactively cancelled coverage?

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    Stocks in 403(b) plan

    Guest Randy Ehle
    By Guest Randy Ehle,

    I know that stocks are not an allowable investment in a 403(B)(7) plan. What are the ramifications if someone buys them in the plan? What about if it's an ERISA plan vs. a non-ERISA plan?


    OK to rollover contributions and earnings from a tax-deferred annuity?

    Guest Melissa Winslow
    By Guest Melissa Winslow,

    I have a client who has cashed out a tax-deferred annuity. He would like to invest in an IRA. Can he roll the entire balance (basis + earnings)? Are there any time restrictions for this?


    Is a distribution that was made within the last 5 years to an employee

    John A
    By John A,

    Determination date for top-heavy test is 12/31/99.

    Participant terminated 10/31/94.

    Participant received a distribtuion 3/31/95.

    Is this distribution included in the top-heavy test in accordance with Code Sec. 416(g)(3)or excluded from the test in accordance with Code Sec. 416(g)(4)(E)?


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    John A
    By John A,

    An employer terminated its defined benefit plan and allowed employees a full range of distribution options, including rolling over the money into the employer's 401(k) plan. Is this a related rollover? Is the rollover included in top-heavy testing as part of the 401(k) plan indefinitely? Can the amount be ignored after 5 years since it was part of a distribution to the participant?


    A participant with an outstanding loan files for bankruptcy and the pl

    k man
    By k man,

    A participant with an outstanding loan files for bankruptcy and the plan has received a proof of claim. how do we treat the loan this point?


    Which year gets the deferrals when a payroll period is split between y

    John A
    By John A,

    An employer with a 2-week payroll period had a payroll begin December 27, 1999 and end January 7, 2000. Do the deferrals associated with that payroll get attributed to 1999, 2000, or split between the years for 402(g) and ADP test purposes? Does the employer get to choose? If the employer can choose, can the decision be changed each year?


    Rollover of Funds

    Ellie Lowder
    By Ellie Lowder,

    Michael is exactly right under current law. Many of us believe we will get new legislation (eventually) that will permit rollover of eligible r/o distributions interchangably, even including the ability to rollover 457 eligible deferred compensation assets to an IRA. Watch for that new pension portability which is a popular "item" with most.


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    Guest TAG
    By Guest TAG,

    What is the deadline date for over 70 1/2 mandatory distribution from an IRA. Thanks for your help.


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    Guest Judy Edwards
    By Guest Judy Edwards,

    My filing status is Married Filing Separately. I have not lived with my spouse for 13 years but am not divorced. Can I contribute to a Roth IRA?


    Non-ERISA Plan - Employer Liability

    Christine Roberts
    By Christine Roberts,

    In a non-contributory, non-ERISA 403(B) "arrangement" (i.e., individual annuities)what is an employer's potential liability, if any, for deferrals/contributions in excess of 402(g), 403(B)(2)(A) (MEA), or 415?

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    Health Insurance increases...who's absorbing the $$$'s? As a result of

    Guest Susan Lauretti
    By Guest Susan Lauretti,

    We are a small telecommunications equipment dealer and have approximately 20 employees....how are the smaller companies handling the increases? Are you passing the cost on to ee or is the company absorbing? Are you making any changes, add or delete, to the current health plan? (Our health plan is PPO with a $250 or $1000 deductible.) Any suggestions would be very welcome....


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    John A
    By John A,

    Both the trustee and the employer filed a 1096 and a 1099-R with the IRS for the same distribution. How should this be corrected? The concern is that if a "corrected" 1096 is done showing 0, this will negate both of the 1096's filed (each of which would be correct if the other wasn't filed). Suggestions?


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    Guest Macfesto
    By Guest Macfesto,

    All responses are appreciated, thanks!


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