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     If SH is removed mid-year due to acquisition, do SH provisions apply for that year and you don't need to worry about ADP testing?

    Chris123
    By Chris123,

    I have an inquiry to make that I hope would be fairly simple to answer, which I know is normally not that case -

    I never knew this but then the year before last in a conference call a client was stopping SH mid-year because they were acquired by another company. As a result, I was advised that the SH provisions continue to apply, even if the SH is removed mid-year, if it results from an acquisition. Again, I was never aware of this so I would appreciate it if someone could confirm whether it is in fact true if SH is removed mid-year because a company is acquired by another company, then the SH provisions DO apply for that year and you don't need to worry about ADP testing.


    Short Plan Year and Proration

    justatester
    By justatester,

    We have a brand new start up plan.  The effective date of the plan is 9/30/2020.  Calendar year plan.  Document indicates a short plan year.  Compensation is defined as plan year.  So, I believe I need to prorate the compensation.  The question is do I use 3 months or 4 months?  Or should I be using days?

    For the 415 limit for contributions, there is language in the document that states:  The Limitation Year for Code 415 purposes will be the 12 month period ending on the last day of the Plan Year instead of the "determination period" for compensation.    Based on this language, do I need to prorate the 415 for contributions?

     

     


    Failure to File Form 5500- Asset Sale

    SaraJames
    By SaraJames,

    Hello,

    We have a client who is purchasing the assets of a seller. In  the purchase agreement, the buyer (client) has specifically excluded the welfare plans so that the client will not be purchasing the welfare plans; however, there is a transition period under which employees will remain part of the seller's welfare plans before being transferred over to the buyer's plans. 

    We have learned that the seller has failed to file a Form 5500 for its health plan for the past couple of years. Will our client (buyer) be at risk for DOL/IRS penalties if these delinquent Form 5500 are not corrected? I am having trouble finding sources to support whether successor liability will apply in this case. Any insight is appreciated. Thank you. 


    457(f) Plan + Constructive Receipt

    #toomanyrules
    By #toomanyrules,

    Background: A non-profit operates a 457(f) plan for a select group of management. Only Non-Elective contributions are permitted. The plan uses a 5-year graded vested schedule and participants are fully vested at NRA (age 65). The Plan's substantial risk of forfeiture risk (SRF) such that participants who terminate for cause will forfeit 100% of their account balance, even if already fully vested. Plan allows payment upon the later of separation of service or attainment of NRA. 

    Questions to clarify my understanding: 

    1. As I read the regs, a participant is taxed when the SRF lapses. In this case, then, a participant who may be 100% vested in his account is not taxed on that amount until he terminates employment in good standing (since the SRF doesn't lapse until he terminates). 

    2. If a participant terminates in good standing at age 65, the participant is taxed on their vested balance, since the SRF lapses. Based on the timing of the payment of benefits (later of separation of service or attainment of NRA), then, there really is no constructive receipt doctrine, in this example. 

    3. If a participant terminates in good standing at age 55, the participant is taxed on their vested balance, since the SRF lapses. But, the participant cannot commence payment until attainment of NRA (age 65). In this case, the participant is taxed, without actually having taken a distribution (constructive receipt doctrine). 

    Am I missing anything? 

     


    Rev. Rul. 74-307

    dpav
    By dpav,

    Can anybody provide a hyperlink to download the text of Rev. Rul. 74-307?

    Much appreciated.


    qualified plan loan offset amendment - timing

    AlbanyConsultant
    By AlbanyConsultant,

    This got shifted a year, but my head may not be shifting it, so I think I've got dates that don't line up...

    As I recall, this was originally effective sometime in 2019 in proposed regs that could be followed, and we expected that the amendment itself could be done before 12/31/20 but effective in 2019 - we drafted a whole bunch of them then (that we held awaiting for a document restatement package that we still can't prepare, but that isn't part of this issue other than to say that these amendments are drafted to have an effective date of 2019 but not signed).  Then there was a one-year extension, and it had a "soft opening" in August 20, 2020, but was really truly effective starting 1/1/21.  So now I presume the amendment has to be done before 12/31/21 (never mind the tri-cycle restatement for the moment).

    Can the amendment still be effective for 2019?  Or is that off the table?  Thanks.

     


    Form 5500 filing deadlines - terminated plan

    Tsh94
    By Tsh94,

    I am trying to figure out the 5500 deadlines for this calendar year-end plan..

    Plan was terminated in October 2020 but still held funds through the end of the year. Would the 12/31/2020 Form 5500 be due 7/31/2021 (or 10/15/2021 if extended) like normal?

    Final payout/transfer of funds in plan was April 2021. ($0 balance left in plan as of this date). When would this final Form 5500 be due?

     


    suspension of benefits

    Jakyasar
    By Jakyasar,

    Hi

    Can anyone provide/point me to a link that provides good and simple information on the suspension of benefit rules (or even articles)? Need to check a few things.

    Thank you


    Application of 402(g) Catchup for Non-Calendar Plan Years

    KJJ-TPA
    By KJJ-TPA,

    Can 402(g) catch-up from the previous calendar year be used in the calculation of 415 annual additions maximum for the plan year?

     

    Example for a PYE 3/31/2021

    401(k) deferral amounts for Participant X:

        - 1/1/2020-3/31/2020  = $5,200

        - 4/1/2020-12/31/2020 = $15,600

        - Total 2020 calendar deferrals = $20,800

     

    In PYE 3/31/2020 - $5,200 of the 2020 402(g) catchup was used to allow for a Participant X's annual additions of $62,200 ($57,000 + $5,200).

        - This should mean $1,300 ($6,500 - $5,200) is still available for 402(g) catch-up, for the 2020 calendar year  - The question is regarding the use of this $1,300.

     

    Deferrals 1/1/21-3/31/21 = $6,200 – using as 415 catch up

     

    Would the maximum annual additions for the PYE 2021 be $65,500 ($58,000+$6,200+$1,300) ?

    OR would the maximum annual additions for the PYE 2021 be $64,200 ($58,000+$6,200)?

     

    Thanks!


    60 rollover into same plan

    JOH
    By JOH,

    I don't see anything against but wanted to make sure, is there a restriction that prohibits an in-service distribution from a 403b plan being rolled back into the same plan within 60 days? I don't think so but not 100% sure either.


    Forfeitures to Fund QNECs for Missed Deferrals plus gains

    legort69
    By legort69,

     Can a forfeiture account be used to fund QNECS that cover a lost opportunity to defer (plus gains)?  

     

    I am aware that testing corrections can be funded from forfeitures, but i was looking for clarification or consensus on QNECS to cover LOTD.

     

    One other hanging question.... For missed matches, are they included in the ACP, posted as a QNEC/QMAC,  or  can it be a non-elective subject to the same vesting as the match source?

     

     

     

     

     


    SAR to terminated participants (Retirement & H/W)

    TPApril
    By TPApril,

    Seeing as how SAR's are distributed many months after the end of the plan year, to what extent do Plan Sponsors need to provide the SAR in the following instances:

    1 - retirement plan where the terminated vested participant has zeroed out their account since the plan year end.

    2 - health and welfare plan COBRA participant who is no longer on COBRA


    Adding lump sum options and/or window - discrimination issues?

    Moose
    By Moose,

    We have a plan that has been frozen since 2010 and currently only pays monthly benefits.  The plan is covered by the PBGC.  They're debating terminating and are exploring the options of adding a lump sum option/window to "unload" some of the liabilities.  To use round numbers, let's say this plan has: 1 participant who is active on deferred retirement, 10 participants who are terminated but not yet at NRA, 10 participants retired and in pay status (5 of these are at RMD age).  My questions here primarily circulate around possible discrimination issues..

    -If they amend the plan to add the lump sum option (without the use of a window), this would only open the lump sum option up to participants that have terminated and are not yet in pay status, correct?  Would this potentially cause discrimination issues since it would not allow participants currently in payout status to elect a lump sum?

    -If we add a lump sum window for the participants already in pay status, would it be ok to only offer it to any employees who are not part of the "Top 25 paid HCEs"?  We have 3 HCEs: 2 are in pay status and the other is the active deferred retirement.

    The plan is fairly well funded an probably won't have any issues with the 110% asset rule for the top 25 paid HCE's, but we're hesitant to jump right to terminating and offering lump sums and/or annuity purchases for everyone since that could potentially be a high cost.  Ideally, we'd like to stagger the payouts so we can analyze after each step.


    Schedule D

    Pammie57
    By Pammie57,

    I am preparing a Form 5500-SF for a 401k plan with only 47 participants.  The asset platform provided information for Schdule D & C.  I know I don't need to attach a Schedule C, but I am second guessing about whether I need to prepare and attach the Schedule D  to the 5500-Sf.  Thanks for feedback.  


    Hardship - Medical Bill in Collections

    Vlad401k
    By Vlad401k,

    A participant had medical expense about 3 years ago. He has not paid the bill and it is now in collections. Can he request a hardship distribution request for this expense?

     

    Thanks.


    Schedule A, covered family members

    SG
    By SG,

    Hi all, 

    Could you help me understand two questions with regard to health insurance plans? 1. Should premiums for covered family members be counted in the premiums paid to insurers? 2. Should covered family members be counted in the number of participants? 

     

    Thanks so much!!!


    OT - Sample SCP document for ESOP

    Tax Cowboy
    By Tax Cowboy,

    Group:

    I'm drafting a Self Correction Plan (SCP) to correct insignificant operational failures

    for an ESOP and looking to see if anyone has a sample (redacted?) document they are willing to share?

    Also looking for robust article on SCP's its history and recent changes including

    Rev Proc 2019-19? other than what I've found in my initial research.

    Willing to pay if needed. 

    thank you in advance.

     


    Salary Deferral Excess corrected under EPCRS--what 1099R code?

    BG5150
    By BG5150,

    Participant is allowed to defer more than the 10% limit that the plan allows.  Not catchup eligible.

    Per EPCRS, and Excess Allocation arising from a deferral must be distributed to the participant.

    What 1099R code is used on that distribution?


    Company Merger but More Generous Match was not provided for in the Updated Plan

    Bob the Swimmer
    By Bob the Swimmer,


    Sorry about the length in advance !

    Plan A for Company A:  At the end of 2019 this plan matched 100% of 3.5% contributed –and was merged into Plan B.  This plan had a 2-Year Cliff Vesting program for company match dollars (0/100%).  In addition, this plan has the same automatic enrollment features (e.g., start at 3% and increase 1% each year until 6% is achieved) as Plan B.

    Plan B for Company B:  At the end of 2019 this plan matched 100% of the first 1% and then 50% of the next 5%.  This plan had a 2-Year Cliff Vesting program for company match dollars (0/100%). In addition, this plan has the same automatic enrollment features (e.g., start at 3% and increase 1% each year until 6% is achieved) as Plan A.

    Effective 1/1/2020, the two companies merged to become Company AB.  Effective 1/1/2020, all employee contributions were INTENDED to be matched at 100% of the first 3.5% contributed, the more generous formula.  Their intent was to transfer the money from A to B in the first quarter of 2020, but COVID happened and they delayed until the market settled down; that transfer was initiated in the Fall of 2020 and has been completed.  Now, Plan B has 100% of the money for Company AB.

    However, the new Plan amendments never provided for the more generous standard----100% of the first 3.5% match. Nevertheless, all company B employees received the more generous match even though the new plan did not provide for it while it was being contributed. 

    Question is can we amend the plan now under SCP to provide retroactively for the more generous match that company A and B employees both got, or must we go under VCP ?

    Section 4.05 (in the SCP section) in Rev. Proc. 2019-19 says the following:

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    No employees were disadvantaged. In fact, former B employees benefited by the higher match—the plan just did not properly provide for it at the time. It’s also well within the 2-year period for SCP.  What do you think ?


    Hardship Distribution - Time limit for eligible expense?

    Gilmore
    By Gilmore,

    A plan is using the safe harbor rules for hardship distributions.

    A participant incurred a medical expense in 2019 and has been paying the bill off over time.  There is currently an amount still owed on the original expense. 

    Two questions:

    1.  Assuming the document is silent on this specifically, can the participant request a hardship for the amount of the medical expense that is still outstanding even though the original expense occurred two years ago?

    2.  If #1 is a "Yes", assuming the plan document allows for additional hardship restrictions, is it acceptable to say for example, that hardships will only be allowed for an expense that occurred no more than 6 months from the date of the request?

    Thanks very much.


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