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Controlled group
Two brothers each own 50% of corp A and 50% of corp B. Corp A & B are completely different business entities and have no business between the two. Because their common ownership is 100% of both corps, I am assuming they are a controlled group, is that correct?
Only employee with a balance, 0% vested
A client is an adopting employer in an MEP, and has only one employee. This employee will be terminating soon, and is 0% vested in his employer source. If the company does not hire a replacement for this employee, what happens to the forfeited employer money?
Auto-escalate mid plan year tied to salary increases?
We want to time auto-escalate at the same time as annual salary increase to help/encourage employees to increase 401(k) plan contributions up to our 6% match. Is that okay to do mid-year? June 1 is the salary increase date.
Annuity option when withdrawal from 401(a) thrift savings plan. Is this a distribution?
The federal Thrift Savings Plan allows retirees to direct the TSP to purchase an annuity from an insurance company (either the entire or partial balance of the participant) when participant retires. IRS pub 721 says the participant is not taxed until the annuity payments are paid to the participant. What IRS section allows the transfer of the purchased annuity from the TSP to the insurance company to be considered a nontaxable event? Is the annuity considered part of the TSP plan even though the insurance company is now in charge of the payments and issues the tax documents each year? Most plans require direct transfers or rollovers to remain tax free.
Adding profit Sharing provisions
Inquiring if regs allow the addition of profit sharing provisions as follows:
During the 2020 calendar year, a client starts/sponsors a new Plan, with elective deferral provisions only, effective 01/01/2020. Plan executed 02/01/2020. During the 2021 calendar year, the client wishes to add profit sharing beginning 2020 (as of the original effective date of the Plan).
Because the client has until their tax filing to make a Profit Sharing Contribution, is it fair/accurate to say that the client may add PS as of 01/01/2020 as long as the amendment is executed by their tax filing?
Cross-Tested Plan w/ QNEC to Pass ADP Testing
Plan allocates 5% profit sharing to all eligibles, but everyone is in a separate allocation group. Plan is not a safe harbor 401k. Plan is failiing ADP but if I do a bottom up QNEC of 5% to both of the lowest paid employees my ADP testing is passed.
If I run a(4) testing with QNEC's I can get it to pass because with QNECs they pass the GWM. If I run without QNEC's, they are not getting ANY nonelective and thus require no gateway minimum.
Is my logic here correct? The plan passes rate group testing with the two bottom people treated as not benefitting.
Lost Participant / Address Changes?
https://www.docusign.com/products/identify
I was researching about esignatures, which for some reason I incredibly interested in??, and came across this method of identifying that an individual is who they say they are. This sounds an awful lot like something that is very important, especially when some termiated employee comes back 10 years later for their money having moved 3 times, etc.
Anyone ever used something like this (or this for that matter)?
TPA partnership for lucrative Ethnic market
I am a financial advisor and my partner is a CPA with her own practice. We are both located in Southern California and service only Asian business owners. After spending most of our careers in the Asian market we have concluded that there is a huge demand and supply gap for a TPA firm to service small business, high income real estate agents, dental practices and other high income 1099 professionals in this market. The current market is dominated by a couple TPAs and we believe there is room for another to thrive. We are looking to start offering TPA service catering to this market. Neither of us have any experience nor interest in becoming a TPA ourselves and would rather partner with a establish TPA who can design and administering qualified retirement plans.
I am writing to see if anyone would be interested in exploring a partnership model. Our job will be to acquire clients and client liaison, we will have our own staff that helps communicate between you and the clients including translations. You will be in charge of all the plan designing and administration work and all other TPA functions. The TPA does not need to be in Southern California but would help if there is not a huge time zone difference.
Please message me if anyone wants to explore this partnership and we can work out the details.
Thank you
Exemption from the 10% early withdrawal penalty
Has anyone heard of any updates to how to file for the 10% early withdrawal penalty? I know there has been much discussion, such as changing box 7 on the Form 1099-R from a 1 to a 2 2, then completing the Form 5329, and I've heard people say leave it a 1, file Form 5329 to claim it as Other, and leave it alone for now and wait for guidance, which I can't find any. When I went to the IRS website for the latest Form 5329, it says it is still a draft, and do not file. Any thoughts or findings?
Selling my TPA firm
I am considering selling my TPA firm.I am looking to sell it for 1x annual revenue with a continuation on of the employees. Please let me know if you have any interest.
Access Old IRS "Retirement News for Employers" Newsletter
Hi -- I am trying to prepare a VCP application regarding corrective contributions. I found a relevant summary of the IRS's Summer 2011 Retirement News for Employers newsletter that appears to be prescribe the correction approach, but it is no longer available on the IRS website. Any idea how I might access this old guidance?
Thanks!
Rules of Parity Cheat Sheet
see the attached. I'm very happy with this. Every time rule of parity would come up I would research for an hour. I finally wrote this down.
Let me know what you think! I would incorporate suggestions and reshare.
[Edited to add revised pdf, 1/24/2021 in the early am][Edited to reattach the revised PDF per suggestions/corrections].
Let's talk about discriminatory timing 1.401(a)(4)-5
So, how much of a thing is this? An employer used to have a bunch of employees. They changed things up in 2020 and all the employees are now gone, just the married couple owners who are left. In 2021 they want to start a plan. Reading the reg and Example 1 would imply that setting up a plan would be discriminatory timing. So are they just SOL and can't have a plan? Not ever? Assuming they want to do a 401(k)/PS. The former employees have no compensation in 2021, so their 415 limit is zero. How does that work?
Or if they want to do a DB? I suppose a DB could grant benefits to former employees, but with no current year annual additions possible a combo won't work.
And how many former employees and how many years where this is a problem or it goes away?
Or is this reg so unworkable as to not really be a thing?
Filing VCPs for clients
With the IRS requirement to file and pay for VCPs at pay.gov how are you handling this for your clients? With the new electronic requirement, I was completing the 8950 & 8951 in a pdf and providing it to my clients so all they had to do was fill in the blanks and submit the fee. Our Forms provider links us to the IRS website and no longer provides a copy of the form and neither does the IRS. Curious how others are handling. Thank you
FT William, Error Message
--> Error: Another payee has the same TIN and Distribution Codes.
It comes up when the plan has a 401k distribution and a cash balance plan distribution.
DOL rejecting 2-person SF's?
Anyone try to file a 5500-SF with 2 participants?
Mine keeps getting rejected.
I get a warning in Relius saying that if I qualify to use the EZ I now have to use that form.
But this is plan is not a 'one participant plan.' It's an owner and an employee.
Relius says it's probably a DOL problem, but they didn't seem to know anything about it. A co-worker saw a posting on Datair's forums about a similar issue.
LLC no pay in 2020 but wants to do PS
LLC has owner and one employee
What with the pandemic, owner ended up taking zero in W-2 pay in 2020 while supporting the employee. Owner took draws though as I'm informed. Plan doc defines comp as W-2. Owner files main taxes as S-Corp.
Owner now wants to make a profit sharing contribution to both her and employee and wants to know if there is another way to calculate it for herself. I said no but she asked me to try to research it.
PPP2 2020 PS deposited in 2021 - can include?
I've been asked if a 2020 year end profit sharing contribution deposited in 2021 can be included in the PPP Second draw application for calculating the loan amount, not for how to use the funds. I really don't know, although I feel like it's more of a cash basis situation.
plan vs plan sponsor
We have PA ( not state of, but Professional Association) that sponsors a plan.
The PA is in the process of being sold, projected to be 1/31/21; plan termination set for 1/31/21, as well with appropriate notices given timely.
We know IRS does not recognize a plan without a Sponsor and the IRS does give up to 12 months from the termination date to distribute all funds.
Obviously impossible to distribute all funds by 1/31/21.
Technically, when all assets are distributed, rolled over or cashed out, the "Sponsor" will not exist.
Maybe I'm being too technical, but how to handle such a situation?
COBRA and Tolled Special Enrollment Rights
Scenario: Employee's spouse's employment was terminated. She is eligible for 12 months of fully subsidized COBRA continuation coverage followed by an additional six months of unsubsidized coverage as required by COBRA.
The spouse is nearing the end of the 12-month period of subsidized coverage and the employee wants to enroll the spouse in his employer's plan effective at the end of subsidized period.
HIPAA's special enrollment rights would, in general, permit the employee to enroll the spouse in his plan in lieu of her electing COBRA (i.e., 12 months ago) and again at the end of the 18-month COBRA period. But there is, in general, no special enrollment right to add coverage in the middle of COBRA continuation coverage.
In the COVID-19 relief (which in my view was not the previous Administration's best effort), the requirement that a participant inform an employer of a special enrollment right within 30- or 60-days (depending on the event) is tolled until basically the end of the pandemic.
Must the employer permit the employee to enroll his spouse in the plan as he requests because the notification requirement is tolled? Or did the employee's special enrollment right for his spouse go away when she elected subsidized COBRA?
Any thoughts are appreciated.







