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    Distribution made from corporate account

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    So, here's the question - plan Trustee liquidates funds to pay a terminated participant. Doesn't open a trust checking account - deposits the funds to corporate account, and SAME day sends check to participant, or directly to the participant.

    Now, I know this is a no-no, but it happened. Question is if this in any way invalidates a rollover, since it technically didn't come from a "trust" account?


    Actuarial increases to unreduced early retirement benefits?

    Carol V. Calhoun
    By Carol V. Calhoun,

    Plan provides that normal retirement age is 65.  However, early retirees and vested terminated participants can elect to receive unreduced benefits as early as age 60.  Is there any requirement that benefits be actuarially increased if a terminated vested participant does not apply for benefits until, for example, age 65?

    The only authority I can find on this is Code section 411(b)(1)(G) and Treas. Reg. section 1.411(b)-1(d)(3), which say that an accrued benefit cannot be decreased on account of increasing age or service.  From an intuitive standpoint, it would seem obvious that if you can get a particular monthly benefit at age 60, providing only that same monthly benefit at age 65 constitutes a reduction in the benefit (because the same amount will be received for fewer years).  However, Code section 411(a)(7) defines the accrued benefit as "in the case of a defined benefit plan, the employee’s accrued benefit determined under the plan and, except as provided in subsection (c)(3), expressed in the form of an annual benefit commencing at normal retirement age."  (Subsection (c)(3) deals with the portion of the accrued benefit attributable to employee contributions, and is not relevant here.)  So since the plan is not decreasing the amount payable at normal retirement age (age 65), is it free simply to tell the participant who applies late, "Sorry, we know you could have started receiving full benefits at age 60 if you had applied on time, but because you didn't, you won't receive either a make-up for the missed payments or an actuarial increase"?

     


    Adding an Employer Sponsored Roth IRA to a B plan

    HarleyBabe
    By HarleyBabe,

    Need some guidance please.  Had a client consult with an attorney who you know informed them of retirement plan options.  I'm sure they were all knowledgeable.  Yes I'm being sarcastic.  At any rate, they have approached me with adding a Roth IRA as a plan option so they can offer more to long term employees.  They have Roth in their B plan.  It's not a Safe Harbor B plan just as an FYI.  I know everything I can do with the B plan but I suspect they don't want everyone to benefit.  It's also an ERISA B plan.  Apparently they can put together an Employer sponsored Roth IRA and just contribute for who they choose, of course the contribution they make is taxable to the participant.  But how does this coordinate with the ERISA B plan?  Are there combined testing requirements since both Employer sponsored.  Can they do this free and clear???  I've never in 30 years had a client do something like this so insight on whys and such or other options, pros and cons of this, would be great?  Thank you.


    Coronavirus DIstribution Timing

    Christine Roberts
    By Christine Roberts,

    Participant submitted the paperwork for a Coronavirus Related Distribution on December 24, 2020. The assets were transferred out of the participant account and plan trust account on December 26th. They were transferred to a paying agent. The paying agent didn’t send out the distribution until January 4, 2021. 

     

    The paying agent is refusing to treat this as a coronavirus related distribution because the check wasn’t sent until January 4, 2021. (Past the 12/31 CRD deadline.) They will be issuing a 2021 1099 distribution for the full $100,000. Thus the participant will have to incur immediate tax consequences and penalty for taking this money out.  

     

    Has anyone else had any issues like this? We are trying to build a case that because the money left the participant account and the plan’s trust account on December 26th that this should be credited as a 2020 Coronavirus Related Distribution and the paying agent should treat it as such.  


    Unfiling Final 5500?

    BTG
    By BTG,

    I have a situation with simple facts, but no apparent good solution.  A retirement plan sponsor accidentally filed a final 5500 (showing no assets), under the mistaken belief that all assets had been distributed.  In reality there were (and are) some assets in the plan.  This is all very recent, so they are still within the acceptable window following plan termination to distribute the assets, but I'm not sure what to do about the incorrect filing.

    Is there some way to retract or unfile a final 5500?  They could presumably file an amended final return, but not until all of the assets are actually distributed.  (As some may have guessed, the remaining assets are nontraditional assets that may take some time to dispose of.)

    Has anyone else seen this situation?


    Participant count for a new plan on 5500 form

    Jakyasar
    By Jakyasar,

    First time I have seen the following in my many many years in this business.

    I am looking at a 5500 forms prepared by another TPA. It is first filing and for 2020 (calendar plan). 401k/safe harbor/profit sharing plan.

    401k feature started late in 2020 - adoption date of the new plan. Not a short plan/sponsor year. Plan effective 1/1/2020.

    Safe harbor and/or profit sharing deposited after plan year end.

    All participants have been employed more than few years so eligible under 21/1 rule as of 1/1/2020 i.e. entered the plan on 1/1/2020.

    On the 5500 forms, participant count on 1/1/2020 is 0 and 12/31/2020 10. All 10 were eligible as of 1/1/2020 - no one entered the plan after that date.

    The way I know/done is the participant count on 1/1/2020 is 10 and not 0.

    What am I missing here?

    Thank you


    Going from ERISA 403(b) status to Non-ERISA 403(b) status

    ldr
    By ldr,

    Good afternoon, 

    If a private non-profit entity sponsors an ERISA 403(b) plan with an employer match, and then discontinues the match, can the plan be reclassified as a Non-ERISA 403(b) plan and stop filing Form 5500-SF?  Would the plan need to be amended and restated into a Non-ERISA document?  Would the mere presence of old account balances derived from employer matching in previous years make the plan continue to be covered by ERISA?

    Thanks as always for your help.


    Is this choice-of-law provision now common?

    Peter Gulia
    By Peter Gulia,

    In reviewing an IRS-preapproved document, I saw this: “To the extent such laws are not preempted by federal law, the terms and conditions of this Plan will be governed by the laws of the state in which the Pre-approved Document Provider is located[.]”

    This choice sometimes might matter because the document can be used to state a non-ERISA plan.

    The document defines “Pre-approved Document Provider” not as the documents’ publisher but rather a retirement-services provider (a licensee of the documents).

    Is this choice-of-law provision now common?


    5500 - Filing question

    Ahuntingus
    By Ahuntingus,

    Client established a safe harbor matching plan in 2020.  however no body, owners nor employees made any contributions in 2020.  There are eligible employees but beginning and ending balances are $0.  Client doesn't believe a 5500 should be filed; i'm of the opinion of course it has to be filed; people were eligible.  Just looking for a 2nd opinion here.


    valuation date - short CB plan year for termination

    Bri
    By Bri,

    Small non-PBGC cash balance plan used a 12/31 valuation date.

    Froze 3/31/20, terminated 5/31/20, assets all out on 8/12/20.  So I'm prepping final report and SB for actuary to sign ahead of 6/15 extended deadline.

    Is 8/12 an okay valuation date to use?  Assets and liabilities both zero at that point since everyone was paid (final assets were just a residual dividend liquidated to pay fees).  Don't want to switch to 1/1/20 because we'd have to assume folks would be hitting 1000 hours and getting a new contribution.  5/31 valuation date would obviously require more review of the numbers the software spits out.

    Thanks.

    -Bri


    Sched. C Reflects a Loss

    coleboy
    By coleboy,

    Hi,

    Client's Sched. C reflected a loss. Unfortunately he maxed out his 401k so it will have to be refunded. The accountant came back asking if the non-taxable PPP income that the client received last year could be included.

    I'm pretty sure I know the answer but wanted something in writing.


    Prorata calcs for someone switching coverage

    dmwe
    By dmwe,

    When someone over age 55 switches from Family to Single coverage May 1st, does the annual limit you use to calculate the prorata annual contribution limit include the Catchup $1000? So $8200 for 4 months, then $4600 for 8 months. Or do you use the annual limit of $7200 or $3600 for the prorata calculations, and then add the $1000 to that?

    Thanks


    Discretionary Match formula different for participating employer

    AmyETPA
    By AmyETPA,

    Client has a discretionary match formula, first half of the year they've done 100% up to 2% but starting July 1 will increase to 3%.  They however want to leave the participating sponsor employees at the 2%.  My thought is that is acceptable as long as they pass ACP and as long as there isn't a disproportional amount of NHCEs in the participating sponsor. Would you agree?


    Differing match formulas

    hsctpa
    By hsctpa,

    We have a client that has acquired another company.  They are part of a controlled group so the new company will be part of the plan.  The client would like to give a more generous match to the new company's employees.  They have no problem excluding all HCE's from the more generous match formula.  Since there will be only NHCE's receiving this more generous match, is there any additional testing we must do; such as benefits, rights and features?  Any other issues we might not be taking into consideration?


    What to do with large investment returns in a Cash Balance Plan

    ac
    By ac,

    We are the actuary for a cash balance plan that uses the actual rate of return for plan assets as the annual interest credit.  The interest credit percentage is limited to 6%.  The Plan had an asset return of 21% for the 2020 plan year.  As a result, the assets exceed the participant account balances by a considerable amount.

    Any suggestions on how to use these extra assets for the participants?

    Can we have an ad-hoc interest credit or pay credit to bring the account balances up to the assets?  I want to make sure we do not violate the accrual rules or discrimination testing.

    Any suggestions would be appreciated.


    RMD - 402f notice not needed?

    AlbanyConsultant
    By AlbanyConsultant,

    We always provided the 402f notice with RMD paperwork just to be on the safe side, but I stumbled upon this article that suggests that Notice 2020-62 clarifies that this is not necessary.  I can see why it wouldn't be, but I'm just being overly-cautious.  Any thoughts?

    link

    Relevant section from article:
     

    Quote

    In late 2019, Congress passed the Setting Every Community Up for Retirement Enhancement Act (SECURE Act), allowing individuals to receive a “qualified birth or adoption distribution” of up to $5,000 from an eligible retirement plan. While such distributions may be recontributed to the plan from which they are paid, Notice 2020-62 clarifies that they are not eligible rollover distributions and not subject to the 402(f) notice requirements. The SECURE Act also raised, from age 70 1/2 to age 72, the age by which a qualified plan participant must begin receiving required minimum distributions (RMDs). The recent guidance clarifies that 402(f) notices must continue to be issued for eligible rollover distributions until a participant’s RMDs begin.

     

    Of course, the IRS Notice nowhere comes right out and says this - it says that QBAD doesn't need a 402f notice because it can't be rolled over.  Is the GF article writer just being a little aggressive?

    I note that American Funds has removed the 402f notice from it's RMD form, so maybe there really is something here...
     


    Participant Loan Program

    austin3515
    By austin3515,

    Can someone please explain to me when/if a client needs to provide participants with a copy of a loan program.  Is it solely upon request?

    Relius's 401k documents seem to include all relevant provisions in the SPD BUT for some reason the 403b document does not.

    Just curious what the rules are concerning this stuff.


    Release Required Independent of Payment Schedule

    Christine Roberts
    By Christine Roberts,

    NQDC Plan provides for payment of benefits in annual installments each March.  Termination of employment generally results in a forfeiture of further payments.  However, under certain conditions, such as, termination by company other than for cause, payments are to continue when otherwise due under the plan, but conditioned upon the participant signing a release of claims (no deadline specified).  Where the release is not a payment trigger (rather, failure to sign a release apparently results in a forfeiture) is it necessary to set a deadline for the release to be returned/and for the revocation period to expire?  


    fixing excess contribution in EZ plan

    M Norton
    By M Norton,

    401(k) plan, husband and wife only participants - both over age 50, both deferred $25,500 (not $26,000) for 2020; ER contribution is $75,000 (as deducted on 1120S return)

    plan document (McKay Hochman) says allocate PS pro rata;

    husband's W-2 wages more than wife's W-2 wages, due to SH health added to his comp

    When I allocate $75K pro rata between the two of them, then add his regular deferrals of $19,500, he is over $57,000 annual addition limit.  Can $500 of his deferrals be recharacterized as catch-up (making his total catch-up $6,500) to reduce the excess?  Then reduce his PS allocation by enough to get him down to $57,000 + $6,500 catchup?  The wife's original PS contribution plus deferrals, plus the excess from spouse, will still be under the 415 limit.

    Or do you skip the part where $500 of his deferrals are recharacterized, which makes his excess $500 higher and the give all the excess to her?  There is room to do that, also.

    Which is the preferred or prescribed method?

    Thanks.


    Nonelecting Church plan offers a match--5500 required?

    BG5150
    By BG5150,

    Nonelecting Church plan offers a match.  Does that make them subject to Title I now?  And do they have to file 5500s?

    Fact pattern:

    Nonelecting church plan, never sent written statement to be covered under ERISA.  But they have been filing 5500s (for whatever reason).  We took it over, and told them they might not have to file.  But they said they did because they offer a match.

    Is that true for Church plans (as opposed to a "regular" non-ERISA 403(b) Plan)?


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