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    20% withholding requirement

    Jakyasar
    By Jakyasar,

    Hi

    Cannot seem to find if for 2020 20% withholding is waived on distributions (not hardship/Covid related, just regular distributions), it is still required, correct?. I am aware of the 10% waiver for 59 1/2.

    Thank you,


    ESOP Distributions and 401(a)(14) Election

    piquantbaron
    By piquantbaron,

    I have an ESOP client that has adopted a distribution policy whereby distributions for a particular year will be made in Q4 after the latest annual valuation has been completed and the company has a good idea of what its cash flow for the year looks like. The company then uses this information to determine its capacity for making distributions (e.g. if the company is short on cash it will use the stretch provisions to make installment payments for all participants who have elected a distribution, otherwise it will have a mix of lump sum distributions (for lower account balances) and installments  in a nondiscriminatory manner).

     

    Is this distribution policy in violation of the distribution commencement rules of IRC 401(a)(14) when 65+ (Normal retirement age under the plan) former participants make distribution requests because it is making distributions in December instead of late February/early March?

     

    I believe the requirement under 1.401(a)-14(a), which permits a plan to require a participant to file a claim for benefits before payment commences, and the retroactive payment rule in 1.401(a)-14(d), which allow distributions to be delayed until 60 days after the payment is able to be determined, can be used in conjunction to delay most distributions under the proposed timeline above, but I'm curious to hear what others think as I understand some plan sponsors seem to ignore this rule.


    RMD from a terminating profit sharing plan

    Jakyasar
    By Jakyasar,

    Hi

    My apologies if this was asked before/missed it.

    PS plan terminating now. Have a 75 year old participant receiving RMD (none withdrawn for 2020 yet).

    Because of the plan termination, do they need to receive the RMD or can waive it?

    Thank you


    Does a DB Plan with 10/31/19 YE get the extension?

    RayJJohnsonJr
    By RayJJohnsonJr,

    Does a DB Plan with 10/31/19 YE get the extension?


    plan disqualification (tax conseqences)

    Scuba 401
    By Scuba 401,

    this case involves a rollover to a qualified plan. we think the plan was never qualified and therefore the rollover was improper. i am thinking the tax consequences would be the entire rollover would be taxable and also subject to the 6% excess contributions excise tax.  anyone have any thoughts? 

    as a side note i wonder if the IRS would allow  the TP to back out the rollover and roll it into an IRA which and them allow him to start taking RMD's and maybe pay the 6% excise tax for the years the contribution was in the plan.


    Secure Act - removal of ER s/h notice rqurmnt

    TPApril
    By TPApril,

    per Secure Act, safe harbor nonelective plans no longer need to provide the annual safe harbor notice every year.

    So, for plan that provided notice in 2018 for 2019, no notice will be provided in 2019 for 2020. Question is - does that make the safe harbor nonelective contribution optional because no notice was provided that it is indeed being contributed? Or am I totally offbase here.?


    ADP Safe Harbor But Not ACP - Will this work?

    austin3515
    By austin3515,

    Plan currently has a dollar for dollar match on first 10%.

    I think I can have a dollar for dollar match on the first 4% as safe harbor, and then dollar for dollar on the next 6% as a discretionary match.  I would still get to keep my ADP Safe Harbor, but obviously no ACP Safe Harbor.

    My understanding is that this does not create any problems at all, right?  i just have to run my ACP Test.


    Top Heavy Allocation to Key Employees

    NW529
    By NW529,

    We have a client who would like to allocate a Top Heavy contribution to both Key and Non-Key employees. 

    The language in the document regarding Top Heavy allocations is as follows: Each Non-Key Employee who is a Participant, or was eligible to be a participant in the plan year, and is employed by the Employer on the last day of the Plan Year will receive a top-heavy minimum allocation for that Plan Year, irrespective of whether he or she satisfies the Hours of Service condition under the Employer's Adoption Agreement...

    Based on this language, is it permissible to allocate to Key employees? 

    Any feedback is appreciated! Thank you


    Contingent Trustee for Profit Sharing Plan

    Stash026
    By Stash026,

    I have a one-person Profit Sharing Plan that wants to name his daughter as a "contingent trustee", just in case something were to happen to him.  How would we go about that, or is it really more of a beneficiary (or just add her as a second Trustee)?

    Thanks everyone!


    CRD allowed in addition to RMD?

    David Peckham
    By David Peckham,

    Small DB plan just husband and wife. Husband is age 73, so has been taking RMDs. The annual annuity date is April 1st, so husband has already withdrawn his 2020 RMD. Now both husband and wife want to withdraw $100,000 each as CRDs. Is there anything wrong with that?


    Small Corrections in EPCRS

    austin3515
    By austin3515,

    I was trying to find something in EPCRS that says that in certain situations if impractical you can use the DOL Lost Interest Calculator to adjust a corrective allocation for gains).  I routinely see attorney drafted VCP apps take this approach and have never seen it questioned.

    Can anyone shed some light on this for me?  IF we're depositing a $100 into someone's account, we don't want to charge the client $250 in fees.


    6055/6056 Reporting

    GoBro
    By GoBro,

    I haven’t seen this addressed anywhere, and I’m a little surprised. IRC section 6055/6056, as a result of ACA, requires reporting of health coverage. When the health coverage is provided under a single employer plan, is the cost to do this reporting an employer or plan cost? I think I know the answer; I just wanted to see if DOL, or anyone else for that matter, has addressed this question publicly. Thanks.


    Two Companies/Plans - Shared Employee as Plan Administrator on Both

    Christina
    By Christina,

    We have a client who is splitting off one location as a separate entity/company. We'll now have Company A and Company B. Each will sponsor its own 401(k) Plan. There is no common ownership for controlled group purposes, but may be as an affiliated service group due to management functions and/or as the 65% owner of Company B is the father of of the 50% of the owner of Company A. This will be passed by the company's attorney.  The intent of the companies/plans is to have zero liability to/for one another.

    Question - an employee of Company A (non owner) acts as the Plan Administrator/Employer Sponsor for Company A's 401(k) plan. The plan uses a turnkey provider as Trustee, but names two individuals as Administrator/Sponsor in the Plan's documents. This person signs off on plan resolutions/amendments, approves distribution requests, handles payroll and contribution deposits to the plan, etc.  If new Company B uses the same individual in the same capacity, acting as Plan Administrator/Sponsor named in the docs, performing all of the same functions, wouldn't there be liability or a common tie there?  I have concerns for this person that would be named as Administrator on both plans.


    Acceleration of Vesting of ISO = Modification?

    Benefits Vet
    By Benefits Vet,

    I am trying to reconcile the rule under 424(h)(3)(C) with the accounting rules for share-based compensation. 424(h)(1) provides that if an ISO is modified, then it is a new grant. 424(h)(3)(C) provides that "the term “modification” means any change in the terms of the option which gives the employee additional benefits under the option, but such term shall not include a change in the terms of the option in the case of an option not immediately exercisable in full, to accelerate the time at which the option may be exercised." So far so good.

    But the accounting rules say that acceleration of vesting is a modification that leads to a new grant. Are both things true in that one refers to status as an ISO and the other refers to accounting treatment? 

    Any thoughts appreciated. TIA. 


    CARES Act IRS Notice 2020-61 for DBs: PSA

    knappy
    By knappy,

    Hello! I happen to be familiar with IRS Notice 2020-61, which came out today, covering the deferral of 2020 contributions to 1/1/2021 under the CARES Act. I found the Notice to be very confusing, so I thought I would start this thread as a PSA, to give pension actuaries a leg up on understanding this. This post will explain how & what interest rates are to be used in connection with DB contributions originally due during calendar 2020 under Notice 2020-61.

    Under 2020-61, the CARES Act EIR rule (i.e., contributions are adjusted at the EIR of the plan year containing payment date) applies for payments actually made from January 1, 2020 through midnight on January 1, 2021 (or January 4, 2021 if the provision in the current Senate stimulus bill passes). For contributions that were originally due during calendar 2020 not yet paid by midnight, January 1, 2021, the CARES Act EIR rule expires. What replaces the CARES Act EIR rule (for unpaid amounts from 2020) is a modified version of 430(j); the modifications are that the quarterly & catch-up due dates are moved from calendar 2020 to 1/1/2021, and the quarterly contribution amounts are increased (with the EIR from the plan year they pertain to) to 1/1/2021.

    So, for example (which is unfortunately not included as a Notice 2020-61 example), say you have a calendar year plan, with a 1/1 valuation date, not subject to quarterly contributions in 2019. Say the 2019 contribution is made on 1/1/2021. To determine whether the 2019 MRC has been met, you must discount the contribution back to 1/1/2019 at the 2021 EIR. If instead, the contribution was made on 12/31/2020, you must discount the contribution back to 1/1/2019 at the 2020 EIR.

    The following chart is intended to help you walk through examples provided in Q&A 2 through 6:

    Notice Example

    Topic: Discounted contributions @ val date

    Topic: Adjusting QRC with interest to 1/1/21

    PY contribution is for

    EIR used: orig due date to 1/1/21

    Why?

    Payment dates used

    A-2

    Yes

     

    2019

    2020

    CARES Act EIR rule

    12/31/20

    A-3

    Yes

     

    2019

    2020

    CARES Act EIR rule

    12/31/20

    A-5

     

    Yes

    2020

    2020

    CARES Act EIR rule

    12/31/20, 6/1/20

    A-6 Ex 1a

     

    Yes

    2020

    2020

    Expiration of CARES Act EIR rule; modified 430(j)

    Not paid by 1/1/21

    A-6 Ex 1b

    Yes

     

    2020

    2020, then 2020+5%

    Modified 430(j)

    2/15/21

    A-6 Ex 2a

     

    Yes

    2019

    2019

    Expiration of CARES Act EIR rule; modified 430(j)

    Not paid by 1/1/21

    A-6 Ex 2b

     

    Yes

    2019

    2020 for 12/15/20 payment; 2019 for unpaid at 1/1/21

    CARES Act EIR rule; Expiration of CARES Act EIR rule; modified 430(j)

    12/15/20, nothing else paid by 1/1/21

     


    IRS letter late filing

    pmacduff
    By pmacduff,

    Small plan (less than 100 participants) client filed the 2018 5500-SF this year when filing the 2019 5500-SF when it was discovered that 2018 had not been filed.   All previous filings since plan inception (1992) have been timely.  Client received a letter from the IRS with regard to the 2018 late filing and a penalty assessment of $87,000!  The IRS letter references the new penalty amount of $250 per day "effective for forms required to be filed after December 31, 2019".

    The size of the assessed penalty aside (!) any idea why they would use the new penalty amount for the 2018 filing? 

    As referenced in other posts, the client has filed under DFVC with the DOL and paid the $750.  Copies of same will be forwarded to the IRS and hopefully penalty will be abated.  Needelss to say $87,000 would be a great financial hardship for this small client. 


    Change in When Forfeiture occurs

    DJL
    By DJL,

    I hope that you can help me with this question. I have spent part of today trying to figure this out, and am getting nowhere.

    I seem to recall that there is an issue to address when a plan wants to change the timing a forfeiture occurs.

    Currently, the profit sharing plan provides that forfeitures occur after 5 consecutive breaks-in-service. The client wants to change that provision to the earlier of distribution of the vested interest or 5 consecutive breaks -in-service. Forfeitures have always been used to reduce the profit sharing contribution. There will be a large amount of forfeiture to be used this year as a result of the change because most of the unvested amounts are attributable to terminated participants who have already taken distribution of their entire vested interests.

    Is there is something I should be looking at before telling the client that it can be done?  Thanks!


    DB plan with post-10/15 contributions - auditor thoughts?

    Bug on my window
    By Bug on my window,

    Hi Folks,

    I'm looking for some input from folks smarter than me. :)

    How will auditors look at plans with post-10/15 contributions for the 2019 plan year? Specifically, I'm assuming that these contributions are not reported on the 2019 SB (since they haven't been made yet) as of the time of filing. Will they be left off of the audit report? Included as a footnote? If the plan sponsor amends the filing post-10/15 to include the contributions on the SB, will the H/audit also require amendment?

    Thanks for your thoughts on this!

    Bug


    Church wants to use tax credit

    ldr
    By ldr,

    Good morning, this falls under the "please don't shoot the messenger" heading.

    A prospect for a non-ERISA 403(b) Plan, which is a church, is asking whether they can take advantage of the "tax credit under the Secure Act".  We don't see how this could benefit an entity that does not pay any taxes in the first place, but we were still asked to research the question.  Maybe we are missing something.

    Thoughts?

    Thank you.


    Engagement agreement language

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    I was just looking at an engagement agreement, and I saw something that I don't recall seeing (or perhaps never noticed, because I don't necessarily review a prior TPA's engagement agreement) before. It states that the TPA will bill the Plan Sponsor for services, then goes on to state that the TPA may deduct the service fees for the services directly from the participants' accounts upon non-payment of fees by the plan sponsor after 60 days.

    Is there any problem with this from a legal standpoint? It feels funny, but maybe it is fine as long as the plan sponsor/fiduciary has authorized it. Is this a common provision? 


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