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now charging annual loan fees to current loans?
We're taking over a plan with several loans outstanding, and the plan sponsor has never known that they could pass loan admin fees to participants (if properly disclosed), so they are now interested in doing so. If I tell the investment product to take loan maintenance fees from participants, they will do so from all participants with loans - they can't exclude certain loans. Is there any issue with starting to charge the annual fee to the existing loans once they've gotten a disclosure notice that this will start happening?
Include Participant in Cross-Testing?
A profit sharing plan accepts rollovers on behalf of employees who haven't met the plan's eligibility requirements. I would image such employees would technically be considered participants and included in the participant count for Form 5500 purposes. Would you include them in the annual testing before they meet the eligibility requirements?
Compensation for ABT - combo ESOP and k plan
We have a client who sponsors both an ESOP and a 401k plan. ESOP owns 100% of company.
Client is looking to split the 401k plan into 2 separate plans - one a safe harbor plan and one a tested plan. We know that we will have to run the ABT for the plans as the coverage test will not pass the 70% threshold.
Right now the ESOP and the 401k plan use different definitions of compensation. It seems that the same definition of compensation must be used to run the ABT. Can the plans still apply 2 different definitions of compensation for allocation purposes and just use the same definition for testing purposes? Or do both documents need to specify the same definition of compensation? The ESOP currently excluded commissions in excess of $150,000 (and yes, there are a handful of employees for whom this exclusion does apply.)
S-corp distribution dividend payment
S-corp is paying a dividend payment to the ESOP. As I understand it, this can be used towards the repayment of the exempt loan. According to IRC 4975(f)(7), this isn't a prohibited transaction.
Agree? If so, another question - for tax purposes, they S-corp is apparently considering this dividend as 2018. But, it is being contributed to the ESOP within a few days. Is this considered an ESOP contribution for 2018, or 2019, or can they choose either?
Thanks!
Top Heavy but no NHCE Employees
I have a plan who 2018 is the first top Heavy Year. The docs say to allocated TH Minimum to All. However, the only 2 NHCE EE"s termed during the year so are not eligible for a Top Heavy. However if I allocate the TH to just the 3 HCE then I fail coverage, and have to bring in those 2 NHCE. Also the Plan is terminated 12/31/2018.
Thoughts?
Exclude one LLC Partner from Permitted Disparity
I don't do a lot of these plans, so I'm looking for some guidance. I've got an LLC with 4 partners, all active, and 3 rank and file employees. HCEs are excluded from Safe Harbor, Using permitted disparity because all rank and file are older than 2 of the partners. The oldest partner is retiring, and doesn't want to fund anything for himself. The other 3 partners all want to do the maximum. Is there a way to accommodate this, or is it an all or nothing situation?
Switching FSA brokers mid-year
I know the IRS does not allow participants to change their election amounts mid-year (absent a qualifying event).
I'm thinking it should be OK to switch brokers, however, as long as the the election amount does not change. The biggest obstacle would presumably be gaining approval from both brokers.
Anyone have any experience with this?
Many thanks in advance!
Avoid RMDs - start a new company after age 70 1/2
What does everyone thing of the following idea? Would it work?
A lot of clients are in the enviable position of not needing the income from the RMDs. Therefore they are continually looking for ways to defer or reduce minimum distributions.
Let's say a client, age 73, retires from his company in 2019 Prior to rolling the assets to an IRA he takes his 2019 401k RMD. He wont be subject to an IRA RMD until 2020.
Later in 2019, he sets up his own business (consulting, Uber Driver, app developer, etc) and establishes a one-person 401k and subsequently rolls his IRA in the newly established 401(k). It would appear to me that the owner (even though they own more than 5% of the business) would not be subject to RMDs until they separate from service
I believe this to be true due to section 401(a)(9)(C)(i)(l) "in the case of an employer is a 5% owner with respect the plan year ending in the calendar year in which the employee attains age 70 1/2...." In other words it seems language does not require for an ownership test each year
Thoughts?
Plan Closing 12/31 - Trailing Distributions Trigger 1099-R next year?
As title suggests, I have a one-person 401(k) Plan that is closing effective 12/31/18. We are, of course, getting trailing dividends and interest well into January 2019. Those div/int are about $1100 out of a 1.9MM plan.
Should I:
1) File a 2018 1099-R with the grand total of distribution (once all those div/int have posted, even though those dollars don't technically leave 401(k) Plan until Jan 2019)? Or ,
2) File a 2018 1099-R for the total rolled out as of 12/31 and then don't file another 1099-R for 2019 (because those div/int amounts are so de minimus)? Or,
3) File a 2018 1099-R for the total rolled out as of 12/31 and then a 2nd one for 2019 for those trailing div/int?
Then, the follow-up related question is about a Final 5500! I do not want my client to have to pay me to complete a 2019 5500 just to report the distribution of those pesky dividends & interest! The amounts are SOOOO low, relatively speaking. If I file a Final 5500 for 2018, I should show the distributed amount as the same amount shown on the 2018 1099-R, right?
Sorry this is so long. I searched for the answer before posting this, but cannot find anything relevant (maybe I'm not great at searching). Thanks so much for anyone's help.
non active members of LLC in ADP test
LLC taxed as Partnership, has 2 owners in active management. The 3rd owner is not active and not deferring. I want to include him in testing because his zero will help.
Is it correct to include him in testing?
merger of SH plan after the 3% is removed?
Hello,
Company A purchases Company B in a stock purchase. Company A sponsors a non safe harbor plan, Company B sponsors a safe harbor 3% non elective (both calendar year plans). Purchase transaction has closed and Company B did not terminate its plan beforehand.
I have reviewed Notice 2016-16 and understand there is limited guidance on mergers when safe harbor plans are involved. However, I have a bit of a twist:
1.401(k)-3(g) and 1.401(m)-3(h) provide guidance on a suspension of a safe harbor contribution mid year. Let's say Company B's plan complies with all these requirements to remove the 3% safe harbor mid year.
I don't believe they can be merged mid year because Company B's plan needs to be tested for the entire plan year (1.401(k)-3(g)(ii)E and 1.401(m)-3(h)(ii)E).
Can the plans merge mid year after the removal of the safe harbor contribution? Could they be merged but then tested in separate groups?
Thank you
Retiree Wants to Stop Receiving Pension
The son of a retiree called in to our corporate office and explained the following situation.
His father is drawing social security as well as the company pension. He is applying for certain Medicaid programs that have limits to monthly income. When the retiree combines social security plus pension, he is over the limit for the medicaid program he wants to apply for. The retiree determined that the medicaid benefits are more important than the amount of his monthly pension.
Is it possible to refuse/stop/suspend pension payments? Is it different based on each plan document? Are there overall rules governing this? I reached out to the actuaries we use and they said from their research, it is impossible for him to discontinue receiving the pension payments.
Safe harbor match, employees excluded from match only
Maybe I'm missing something - can a 403(b) plan allow a certain class of employees to defer, but exclude them from the safe harbor match? I didn't think so...
Gateway to otherwise excludable
Having a brain cramp today.
I have a plan that has 3 month wait, entry is date of event.
Cross-tested 3% SH plan. Do I have to give the otherwise excludable folks the gateway if I am testing them separately? GW will be 5%.
Authority for Multi-Employer Plans
I've been drafting QDROs for several years for family law attorneys. I am working on my first Multi-Employer Plan (Carpenters' Union) QDRO. This is my first QDRO with the participant in payment status. The monthly benefit is $3,610.64 (disability) for the lifetime of the Participant with a 75% survivor benefit to the surviving spouse. The Marital Settlement Agreement provides that the monthly benefit is to divided equally. Since the annuity election can rarely be changed, how much does the Alternate Payee receive:
1. $3,610.64/2 = $1,805.32?
2. 50% of the gross monthly benefit as if the participant had elected a Single Life Annuity? This would provide the AP any possible cost of living increases, etc., but could change the amount of the payment to something other than $1,805.32.
3. If 2 is chosen, what protections can be provided for the AP if the participant predeceases her?
4. Single employer plans are qualified under IRC 401. Is this also true for Multi-Employer plans?
The sample QDRO from the union doesn't really address this? Any comments are appreciated!
Incorrect Trustee in Plan Document
Is it a plan failure requiring correction if the wrong Trustee was named in the plan document?
Adoption Agreement lists the Board of Directors of the plan sponsor as the Trustee, but they actually hired a corporate Trustee several years ago. There is a trust agreement in place naming the corporate trustee. The Adoption Agreement explicitly states that a plan amendment is not necessary to change the information in Trustee section of the agreement.
Missed sending Disclosure
A 401k plan converted from one investment product to another product with the same recordkeeper. A couple, but not all, funds in the plan's core lineup changed and the account number changed. Discovered that the notice to the participants announcing the change was not delivered. Is the fix to forward the notice now to communicate the change? What other correction would / should be made? Thank you
I googled on the topic, but did not find this situation addressed in the 401k fix-it guide and no articles or citings came up regarding the specific topic....
Loan offset IRA rollover
If Company A acquires Company B in an asset sale where Company B maintains a 401k plan which Company A does not takeover as part of the asset purchase, is it permissible for a former employee of Company B who had an outstanding 401k loan balance as of the date of purchase which will be offsetted; to obtain a loan from his Company A 401k account & then rollover the amount of the Company B 401k loan offset to an IRA within the permitted deadline (due date for filing personal tax return)?
Company A does not accept rollovers of participant loans.
I'm thinking this would be allowed because the requirement of a rollover of a loan offset is that the employee must come up with outside funds to be deposited to an IRA or qualified plan to cover the offset amount.
5500 EZ filing
For a continuing calendar year plan, as of today 1/6/19, can I file a 2017 5500EZ or do I have to wait until the IRS releases the 2018 EZ?
Trying to avoid teaching an 80 yr old how to file an SF or teaching him to scan & email me a signed SF.
Thank you
401K Loan Question
I am looking at paying off the two 401K loans that I have, but I am concerned that if something came up and I needed to borrow again that I would be able to access enough cash. I have been reading through information on this forum as well as other sites and I am not certain of the calculation formula when you have two loans. Here are the specifics:
Total Vested Balance = $73,870
Loan 1 Balance = $10,508
Loan 2 Balance = $15,180
Prior to borrowing Loan #2, I paid a loan off on 2/23/18 with an outstanding balance of $17,679. Assuming that I payoff the two outstanding loans on 2/15/19 and wait until 3/15/19 to borrow again what would my loan availability be? My assumption is that it is about $34,000. Does that sound right?











