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miniscule error causes top heavy problem
A very small SH 401(k) plan has five eligible participants. Two are deferring, one HCE and one NHCE. Two other HCEs are not deferring, and one (now deceased) NHCE did not defer.
In 2018 the plan sponsor made the SH match every pay period (by choice - not required). The NHCE who was deferring received a few dollars too much match as of the end of the year. The extra amount equals 0.07% of the NHCE's annual compensation.
So there is what amounts to a miniscule profit sharing contribution made to one NHCE which causes the plan not to meet the exemption to the top heavy rules.
What are the options for addressing this?
Thanks!
Family and ownership attribution
My client has three owners, and one of them who owns more than 5% has a son-in-law working there. I don't think he (SIL) is attributed the FIL"s ownership, but wasn't 100% sure. The daughter is not an employee.
3% Safe Harbor and 401k
Participant enrolled 2 employees early in 401k and plan is 3% non elective safe harbor. Do they refund 401k or can they make 3% non elective safe harbor and keep 401k. This is only employer contribution to plan.
Two Plans / Two NRAs
Plan A and Plan B (profit sharing plans) are in a controlled group (ok, their respective employers are). I am running rate group testing with cross-testing for both plans.
Plan A has an NRA of 62 and Plan B has an NRA of 65. I can see in the regs (1.401(a)(4)-12) where the rule is that you use the latest NRA available (in this case 65) for testing, but the language of the reg seems to all speak in the context of one single plan.
Can somoene point me to the language that you would apply that definition in the way I have described when the testing is being performed at the controlled group level for 2 separate plans?
Not PBGC Covered? Substantial Owner Plan?
Small company with a 401(k)/PS plan as well as a pension plan.
Pension plan is written as an offset so that 100% of the NHCE benefit is provided as PS in the defined contribution plan. The two owners (husband and wife) have their benefit in the DB.
Would this plan be PBGC covered? It does not meet the small service professional exemption.
Would the answer be different if it wasn't written as an offset, but as a stand alone plan that is tested with the profit sharing plan? Assuming 401(a)(26) passes of course.
SIMPLE IRA - VCP - Employer Eligibility Failure
I have a client that acquired a company with a SIMPLE and we are now outside of the transition period and the SIMPLE was not terminated. There is no other 401(k) plan in place yet, but the client wants to start a 401(k) plan as they were not a part of the SIMPLE.
For 2019, could the employees (only 4) of the acquiring employer just begin contributing to the SIMPLE IRA?
Alternatively, since we are in January, very few contributions have been made so far to the SIMPLE IRA. Should I suggest the client go through VCP and claim an Employer Eligibility Failure for 2019 and state that all contributions cease the day after the NEW qualified plan is signed into place?
Is that it? Will the IRS just approve this or will the January contributions be subject to repercussions as a result of the SIMPLE becoming disqualified?
Any other suggestions greatly appreciated!
Wrapping existing Plan Document w/ Ancillary Benefits
Plan sponsor has an existing ERISA plan document for its self-insured medial and RX drug plan. Plan sponsor endorses multiple fully-insured ancillary benefits (LTD, STD, AD&D, etc.) and never adopted a wrap document for such benefits.
It has come to our attention that plan sponsor had been filing one Form 5500 for its "welfare program" (combining self-insured plan with fully-insured benefits) without a plan document properly "bundling" all benefits.
As I see it, Plan sponsor has the following options:
1. Maintain 1 plan: Adopt a mega wrap document that bundles both the existing self-insured medical plan with the fully-insured ancillary benefits
2. Maintain 2 Separate Plans: Wrap the fully-insured ancillary benefits under one mega wrap document and maintain the existing self-insured medical plan as a separate document.
3. Amending the existing plan document for the self-insured medical plan to include the fully-insured ancillary benefits.
My gut tells me to go with option #2 (thereby maintaining two separate plans...the existing self-insured medical plan document and a wrap for the fully-insured benefits) as I feel there could be complications with bundling an existing ERISA plan document with ancillary benefits under one plan.
Any pros/cons to either of these approaches? Thank you!
testing each xt deposit... including receivable?
We have a small segment of our new comp plans that insist on making profit sharing deposits during the year even though they are cross-tested and even though we have told them repeatedly in writing that this is a Bad Idea and a Royal Pain. Mostly, they give a small percentage (~1.5%) to each staff employee with each payroll to approximate the gateway minimum and none to the owners, so we figure that even if questioned, it could be shown that the deposit is non discriminatory. Or they give the 3% safe harbor to each staff employee with each payroll but don't for the owners (though that's usually only for sole props and partnerships, which makes sense).
Today, someone here had the idea to ask if the receivable deposit, if tested on it's own, would be discretionary in favor of the HCEs. Sure, if you look at all the information for the entire year it passes testing, but if you look at that one after-the-end-of-the-year deposit, it's almost all for the HCEs and would fail miserably.
Looking at this on the "receivable" is something I had never considered before. Is this an even bigger issue than I realized?
401k merged into ADP MEP, back to 401k
Client started with 401k in 1986 (001), then merged into ADP MEP (filed 5500 on ADP EIN) then now wants to spinoff to 401k. Is spinoff document 001 because they started with 001 prior to merger or 002? does predecessor service or prior year service apply in this case? Is original effective date 1986 or 2019?
Scam "DOL" call regarding 408(b)(2) compliance?
One of our clients received a call from the "DOL" to the effect of claiming that their plan is "not recognized" by the DOL because they're not in compliance with 408(b)(2), and they'll call back in a week to confirm they've taken appropriate actions. The client says it sounded like a robot.
It seems obvious this is some sort of scam (like the IRS, the DOL would only initiate contact by mail, and they have no way of knowing if a plan complies with 408(b)(2) unless they audit it). If they call again, we're asking our client to request a return phone # and agent ID # to call them back with.
Has anyone else experienced this, or have any insight?
Another client recently received a letter from an advisory firm trying to scare them into hiring them for a "free" 408(b)(2) compliance review.
Thanks.
Plan amendment and 133% accrual rule
Have an antique integrated DB plan of .75% of average comp +.50% of average comp > $10,000, max 35 years.
Sponsor wants to increase benefits by not more than 10% while keeping it simple and maintaining safe harbor status.
Thinking about amending the plan to add to the existing formula effective 1/1/2019 2% of average comp x Years of service prior to 1/1/2019 limited to 5 years.
This provision seems to violate the 133% rule. Or is it ok because it is due to an amendment and would be ok for every year of service starting 1/1/2019?
If not ok, any other ideas (within the objective of a safe harbor formula)?
Percentage of plans with 3(38) vs 3(21)?
Does anyone have any idea of the percentage of plans that have 3(38) vs 3(21)?
Thanks!
DB Plan without Trustees?
Has anyone ever heard of a DB plan not having trustees? I'm being told only 401k and 401a plans require trustees. Is that true? and if so, what is the authority for this? Thanks
Cross Tested 401kPS w 3%SH
Plan facts:
3%SH to all
discretionary PS to all
3 HCES, 3NHCEs, young owner, mixed age staff
each participant is in own allocation rate for PS
Can the employer "cherry pick" a particular participant - who happens to be youngest and new ppt mid-year w lowest eligible pay - such that his own RG passes (a)(4)? The remaining NHCEs will receive at least GW minimum. Doing this passes all (a)(4) testing, 410b easily. My hesitation is because of perceived bottom up allocation... would it be better to "cherry pick" an existing but younger ppt who earns $100k (obviously more expensive to do so)?
FYI, the other 2 HCEs are receiving the 3% SH plus 1% PS, their indiv RGs pass easily.
Thank you.
discretionary non-elective to cure top heavy
Please tell me if I am missing something. Plan is TH first year 64%.
3% is around $9,000.
Discretionary non-elective of $1,400 would make the TH percentage 59.9 %.
TH test is Accrual for the first year ....isn't it?
Am I missing something?
Do users of IRS-preapproved documents get a choice to preclude a QDRO distribution before the participant reaches age 50?
Under ERISA and the tax Code, a retirement plan may allow an alternate payee’s QDRO distribution before the participant’s earliest retirement age. ERISA § 206(d)(3)(E)(ii); IRC § 414(p)(4)(A)-(B); 26 C.F.R. § 1.401(a)-13(g)(3).
For individual-account (defined-contribution) retirement plans, many plan sponsors permit an immediate distribution to an alternate payee, perhaps because a practitioner or service provider suggested that to do so is simpler than keeping a court order open for many years while waiting for the participant to reach an earliest retirement age. (That’s been my advice.) Yet some plan sponsors might prefer to provide for not paying an alternate payee before the participant becomes entitled to receive a distribution or reaches age 50. (I’m not advocating this choice; rather, I’m curious about whether it’s even practically available.)
Does an IRS-preapproved document afford a user an adoption-agreement or other choice for not providing a QDRO distribution until the participant’s earliest retirement age?
Does the document your firm uses afford a choice on this plan-design point?
S-5 Table form the Actuary's Pension Handbook
I'm trying to find the table of rates that reflect the salary increase table S-5 that supposedly is in the Actuary's Pension Handbook.
RMD for active owner rolled balance
Pooled funds balance forward Profit sharing plan has an active owner who took his RMD for 2018 and then rolled the rest of his balance to his IRA account. He still takes a small salary so there will be a new balance in 2019 due to the 2018 profit share allocation/deposit done in 2019 (some time between now and 03/15). I believe that RMDs can be computed on a cash basis and his balance as of 12/31/2018 was $0.00, so in theory the 2019 RMD would be $0.00. He will have a balance as of 12/31/2019, however, so RMD would again be required for 2020 anyway. OR - because the plan is reported on an accrued basis including the 2018 profit share allocation is the RMD required for 2019 as he has an accrued balance as of 12/31/2018?
I assume if he rolls his 2019 balance once the ps deposit is made, then the RMD would have to come out prior to the rollover?
402(g) excess included in 415?
We have someone who deferred 26,000 in 2018. Obvious 402(g) excess.
But do I include the $1500 excess amount in 415? In other words, what is the maximum PS: $35,000 (incl excess in 415) or $36,500 (do not include it if it is distributed)?
I believe it is counted, but I cannot look it up in the EOB at the moment.
excess 415 for terminated employee
Hi all,
I have a 401k plan where participant terminated employment in early 2018 and received a taxable distribution in 2018. His pre tax deferral, Roth contribution and match exceeded his compensation for the year resulting in 415 issue.
In looking at EPCRS per our VS in 415 excess situation, it seems the correction is to distribute the funds plus earnings to him. We already did this. Client wants to self correct since the total excess is under $100. Am I missing something, Is there anything we need to do other than document?
Thanks for any help!










