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    401k excess matching of $18

    Liam
    By Liam,

    Hi,

    Our client had an excess matching of $18 to an employee and couldn't contact with him to resolve this problem. The plan admin proposes the following fix.

    "The guiding principle is to make the plan whole. You have three options here:

    • Recover the assets from the participant to make the plan whole (let me know if you go this direction and I will provide some assistance with the mechanics)
    • Make the plan whole from corporate assets and recover the assets from the participants to make the corporation whole
    • Declare this to be a deminimis amount, taking no action to make the plan whole, and take your chances on audit with the IRS/DOL that they agree with you that this amount is deminimis"

    We really want to treat this as deminimis since it would be troublesome and not cost effective to resolve such small amount. I just want to find some research or guideline from IRS/DOL to back this deminimis.

    I did some research and only found Rev. Proc. 2016–51. section 6.02(5)(b) "(b) Delivery of small benefits. If the total corrective distribution due a participant or beneficiary is $75 or less, the Plan Sponsor is not required to make the corrective distribution if the reasonable direct costs of processing and delivering the distribution to the participant or beneficiary would exceed the amount of the distribution. This section 6.02(5)(b) does not apply to corrective contributions. Corrective contributions are required to be made with respect to a participant with an account under the plan." But this only applied to corrective distribution. In this case, the employee owes the plan back $18.

    Would some of yall run in to this situation before and have any guideline on this or research regarding how to treat this. ?

    Thank you!


    Hardship Withdrawal Request ROTH

    Pammie57
    By Pammie57,

    I had a client call me with a participant wanting a hardship withdrawal.  All of his money is in ROTH deferrals.  Does he  need to request a hardship, or can he just take his ROTH out ?  He has not been in the plan 5 years however - only 3.  I am not sure of hardship rules as they apply to ROTH....  I can't seem to find anything definitive either.  Anybody know for sure?  He's only 32 and their inservice rules are age 59 1/2.  

    He does have  a true hardship.  


    Code 410(a)

    Julie
    By Julie,

    Is adjunct professionals a reasonable exclusion from Code 410(a)??


    Need help Reconciling purchased PTO on Balance Sheet

    Pauline
    By Pauline,

    The company I just started with has PTO purchase via 125 plan, the deductions was set up to  hit GL as  CR to PR Liability. When or how is the Liability cleared?  Plan states all time has to be taken or lost.

    What should happen when the employee uses the purchased Time off?

    Seems to me we will have to do a manual entry to DR the Liability account and CR Wages, to correct the balance sheet.

    Currently,When the employee takes any PTO, this is paid out to them as vacation time , or wages in effect and taxed as such.

    I  need to confirm I am understanding  the DR and CR of this transaction. 

    Where is the benefit , other than extra week off, with pay, they in effect purchased from the employer.

    They have never reconciled the balance sheet , I am attempting to do that for EOY 2018 and this one item has me confused.

    Thank you to anyone that will reply and explain this in clear T accounts 

    Pauline

     


    DB RMDs and Vesting

    figure 8
    By figure 8,

    Say a 5% owner is well past 70.5 and starts a plan effective 1-1-19. Vesting is excluded prior to 1-1-19 and NRA is 65+5. 3-year cliff vesting is used, so the owner will first have vested benefits in 2021.

    Is the initial RMD date 4-1-2022 or 12-31-2021?

    There are several threads on this topic, but they give different answers, and some are more focused on the benefit amount instead of the starting date. One area of confusion appears to be that people get DC rules mixed up with DB rules. For example, in a DB plan, if an RMD starts at 4-1 with an annual payment, the second RMD is NOT due at 12-31 of that same year. The second RMD is payable at 4-1 each year. 

    I think a second area of confusion is that I'm not sure the IRS gives a clear answer.

    I can see an argument made for 4-1-22 or 12-31-21. How do others approach this? Thanks.


    Termination of 401K in a controlled group

    PS
    By PS,

    Is there any website or links that will explain the termination procedure that one needs to follow when the plan is part of a controlled group.  Basically can a plan that is part of a controlled group can it Terminate?

     

     


    Can a Fund change withdrawal liability calculation rules? Under what circumstances?

    ERISA-Bubs
    By ERISA-Bubs,

    My client is contemplating leaving a multiemployer Fund.  We have two withdrawal liability estimates, one from a few years ago and one very recent.  The recent one is almost triple the one from a few years ago.

    We have been told that the Fund changed their withdrawal liability calculation rules, removing a cap on how they calculate unfunded vested benefits.  This rule change caused the huge increase.

    This seems suspicious to me that my client could have left the Fund a few years ago for a fraction of the cost based on unilateral action by the Fund.  Is the Fund allowed to make this change?  Should the Fund have provided advance notice before making this change?  Are there any other defenses my client has against this huge increase in withdrawal liability based simply on the Fund changing how the liability is calculated?


    Do your clients’ retirement plans allow a participant to get her benefit in periodic payments?

    Peter Gulia
    By Peter Gulia,

    Some individual-account (defined-contribution) retirement plans allow a participant a choice of taking a retirement benefit in periodic payments.  Others provide a benefit is paid only as a single sum.  Some reason that limiting payout options doesn’t harm participants because whatever one might choose in an employment-based plan’s payout options can be accomplished with an Individual Retirement Account or Annuity [IRA].)

     

    A recent Pensions & Investments article describes an Alight Solutions survey, which finds 57% allow periodic payments and 43% don’t.

     

    I haven’t read Alight’s report, but I guess the sample is larger plans.  I wonder whether smaller plans have a different mix on allowing or precluding periodic payments.

     

    So informal survey:

     

    Do your clients’ plans allow periodic payments?

     

    About whether to allow or preclude payments, do most clients follow your suggestion?

     


    Compensation Exclusions

    Brigid
    By Brigid,

    Is it possible to use a definition of compensation that passes 414(s) testing when the plan's design is using a safe harbor enhanced match per pay?

    My fact set is the plan was designed to exclude pay in excess of $125,000.   Since this is a 403b plan, the safe harbor design is used to pass the 401(m) test.  The formula is 100% on 4% salary deferred with comp for employees capped at $125,000.  Since the only employees impacted by the cap are HCEs, the 414(s) testing passes.

    But now I am wondering and am getting conflicting answers with some research I am doing that even allows a Safe Harbor plan to exclude any forms of pay even if the exclusions passes 414(s) testing.

    I will take any help and feedback.  Thank you.

    Brigid


    Excepted benefit HRA

    Alphabetsoup
    By Alphabetsoup,

    I'm confused by the recently proposed excepted benefit HRA that would allow an HRA to reimburse dental/vision premiums and other ACA exempt benefits if eligible employees are also offered group health plan coverage. 

    https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/10/29/2018-23183/health-reimbursement-arrangements-and-other-account-based-group-health-plans

    I thought current rules already allow for a limited scope HRA that reimburses dental/vision expenses only (including premiums) as long as they are not an "integral part of a group health plan" or they are provided "under a separate policy, certificate, or contract of insurance" (such as an individual dental/vision policy)? What am I missing?

    Treas. Reg. §54.9831-1(c)(3)(i); DOL Reg. §2590.732(c)(3)(i). (special rules relating to group health plans)

    See Amendments to Excepted Benefits, 26 CFR Part 54, 29 CFR Part 2590, 45 CFR Part 146, 79 Fed. Reg. 59130, 59132 (Oct. 1, 2014)

    Treas. Reg. §54.9831-1(c)(3)(ii)

    DOL Reg. §2590.732(c)(3)(ii)

    HHS Reg. §146.145(b)(3)(ii).


    DB Funding Waiver User Fees

    CuseFan
    By CuseFan,

    The IRS User Fee Schedule (Appendix A, IRB 2018-1) does not show the user fee for an application to waive minimum funding and the Rev Proc refers back to 2004-15 which refers back to 2004-8, which shows user fees of $2,290 (waiver <$1M) and $5,415 (waiver =>$1M). It doesn't look like any of these rules have been updated.

    Are these still the fees or am I missing something?

    Thanks


    Notice 2019-09 and FICA

    ishi
    By ishi,

    In thinking about a standard non-qualified SERP plan for a tax-exempt organization (a nonaccount balance plan), would the remuneration under Notice 2019-09 be the same as for FICA purposes?  In general, it seems they would be the same.  Thanks in advance!


    Lump sum instead of monthly annuity

    SSRRS
    By SSRRS,

    If husband at age 70.5 elected a 100% J&S annuity and passed away can the surviving spouse now take a lump sum that is equivalent to her receiving a monthly annuity (ie lump sum of the 7,500 monthly that she is supposed to receive)Thank you very much.


    401k Hardship Suspension Period and Restarting Deferrals

    cheersmate
    By cheersmate,

    When is a participant permitted to resume his/her 401k deferral contributions following his/her 2018 Hardship distribution 6 month suspension period?  Is it immediately, or, must he/she wait until the Plan's next permitted "change", e.g. if Plan permits Quarterly changes, must he/she wait until the 1st of the next quarter following expiration of the suspension period?

    Plan provides 6 mo suspension

    Plan is SH401k

    Plan provides the Participant must complete a new election following the 6 mo suspension bc the election is deemed to be zero at the point of Hardship distribution.

    Generally speaking Participants may commence or change their deferral elections Quarterly (jan 1, apr 1, jul 1, oct 1).

    Thank you!


    excluding "on-call" pay and hours

    M Norton
    By M Norton,

    Non-profit organization has two full-time employees in management positions, neither of which is highly compensated. 

    They also have nurses who are on-call and will receive $2-$4 per hour for being on-call.  Each nurse is on-call 24 hours per week, which means a nurse would have 1,000+ in a year just for on-call time.

    A nurse may be called in on a case, and would be paid regular hourly compensation (at a nurse's regular pay rate) for those hours.

    The question is whether a 401(k) plan can exclude the on-call time and pay for eligibility, participation and contribution calculations.

    Thanks!


    QSLOB

    Walter
    By Walter,

    We have a realtor who is an LLC and files as a sub-S. Spouse is an attorney, PA with 5 employees, Would the realtor LLC be able to qualify as a SLOB and adopt a defined benefit plan?


    Is This An ASG situation?

    mming
    By mming,

    I don't think it is but wanted to make sure, as I couldn't find a thread on this.  Company A, which sponsors a 401k plan, is owned 80% by Joe and 20% by Mike - only Joe is employed by A.  Mike also owns 100% of company B, and although both companies frequently work together for a common client, they would not be considered ASG members as they are in the construction biz., and therefore, not service orgs.  Would an ASG situation exist if Mike were to become an employee of A without anything else changing?   

     


    Record retention requirements for terminated clients with respect to NQDC?

    dv13
    By dv13,

    How long must a TPA of NQDC plans retain records for a terminated client? Is 7 years the norm? Can it be a shorter time period? What are general guidelines typically followed by other TPA firms for records retention related to NQDC plans and terminated clients?


    Bankruptcy Question

    bzorc
    By bzorc,

    Here is an interesting situation: The IRS , during an audit of a 401(k) Plan, has informed the plan sponsor that they were using the incorrect definition of compensation in withholding from eligible employees. They are requesting that the sponsor go back to 2002 to make the appropriate corrections. Here are the two questions that have arisen:

    The plan sponsor no longer has the payroll records back to 2002, but does have the compliance testing from their TPA (who is no longer in existence). They are wondering if they can use the compensation information from these tests in order to perform the calculation, informing the IRS that this is all they have and it's their best estimate as to the amounts due. The plan sponsor is doing the corrections on their own.

    Second, during this whole thing, the plan sponsor went bankrupt in 2001, and emerged from bankruptcy in 2005. They are wondering if they could be responsible for the corrections during a period of time where they were bankrupt.

    If anybody has thoughts on this, I would be interested in hearing them. Thanks.


    TPA Adding Plan Sponsor to E&O Policy as Add'l Insured

    IhrtERISA
    By IhrtERISA,

    Plan sponsor is getting push back from new TPA about having the plan added as an additional insured to TPA's E&O Policy. According to TPA, the insurance broker does not permit the plan to be added as an additional insured.

    Any thoughts on whether this is common practice?


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