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    Guest mcmiller
    By Guest mcmiller,

    I am searching for a new plan document provider. Most clients are on their TPA prototype/VS documents, but I still have a few stragglers. Used Accudraft and was not happy with system issues - customer support was generally fine, though. Any opinions on SunGard or FT William? Thanks


    Rollover Distribution Check Lost

    coleboy
    By coleboy,

    A former employee requested that their 401k benefit be rolled over to his new employer. According to the plan set up with the fund carrier, all checks are sent to the former employer who is then supposed to forward them appropriately.

    In this case, the former employer supposedly accidently threw the check out. He was supposed to have the check reissued but never did. Now this sizable benefit has been sitting in limbo for almost 2 months without being invested.

    Is there some recourse to being able to get some earnings on that amount?


    Does a first year plan with 200 participants need an audit --

    CharlesLeggette
    By CharlesLeggette,

    This Plan will be set up in December and then in January be merged into the main line plan so it will exist for only 1 year.


    Participant loan for home construction

    R. Butler
    By R. Butler,

    Does constructing a new home constitute "acquring a dwelling unit" for purposes of exrenidng a loan term beyond five years? It is not entirely clear to me that it does.

    Thank you in advance for any guidance.


    An integrated Plan [IRC 401(l)] wants to add discretionary cross tested contribution source

    CharlesLeggette
    By CharlesLeggette,

    It’s my understanding[which may be well out dated], that 401(l) contributions cannot be considered in the 401(a)(4) general test, so basically they're useless for Cross Testing purposes.

    BTW there are document issues…but please disregard them as this is a custom Plan….

    Any thoughts?


    Investment Mistake/Additional Assets After Part Made Whole

    Zorro1k
    By Zorro1k,

    If a broker incorrectly placed trades and after correcting the mistakes and making the plan whole there are additional profits that resulted from the original mistake who is entitled to the profits? What support is there for that position?


    unused vacation pay

    cpc0506
    By cpc0506,

    Client has a 403b plan which provides for a 10% profit sharing contribution. Client deposits the PS each pay period. (There are no allocation conditions to receive an Employer contribution.) Employee A terminated employment during the plan year. She was paid $4,000 in unused vacation pay with her final paycheck. I think this $4,000 is entitled to a PS allocation as well. Client is calling the pay 'severance' and did not contribute a profit sharing allocation for this pay.

    What are your thoughts?


    Reduce Benefit for Prior Lump Sum

    jwb0323
    By jwb0323,

    I have a participant who worked, termed, took a lump sum, but was then rehired. The plan docuemnts says that for benefits for someone who took a lump sum you use all service and then reduce that amount for the actuarial equivalent of the lump sum.

    1) What happens if the benefit we calculate for this person using post lump sum payout service is greater than the amount we would get if we use total service and deduct the lump sum?

    2) If the lump sum was paid out in 2000, do we have to go back to 2000 and figure out the AE definition at that point to redice the annuity? Or, can we simply take the lump sum paid out and reduce the current benefit? Or, take the annuity benefit and convert to a lump sum using current assumptions?

    Thanks,


    Payout to Substantial Owner in Defined Benefit Plan

    drakecohen
    By drakecohen,

    Is the rule that a Defined Benefit Plan has to be 110% funded AFTER the substantial owner takes his/her distribution and, if so, what factors is that liability value calculated with?

    Options:

    1) plan document;

    2) 417(e)

    3) whatever factors the owner's lump sum was based on

    4) HATFA rates

    5) PPA rates


    ASPPA Q&A Question 2014 - Anyone hear the discussion?

    austin3515
    By austin3515,

    This was my question :) But the lame IRS answer was "to be discussed from the podium." Does anyone recall what was said? It's question 12 on the 2014 ASPPA Q&A. ASPPA's proposed response was basically an argument agains the IRS's interpretation on the matter.

    Plan A is a calendar year 401(k) Plan that provides the basic safe harbor match. The Plan holds

    “regular” matching contributions from prior plan years that are subject to a vesting schedule. The

    Plan is top-heavy and at least one key employee receives total allocations of more than 3% of 415

    Compensation.

    For the 2015 plan year, only deferrals and safe harbor matching contributions are to be made.

    There are $3,500 forfeitures of regular matching contributions waiting to be used. They cannot be

    used to reduce the safe harbor match under IRS policy. If the forfeitures are allocated, the plan

    will fail to be exempt form the top heavy rules, and a top-heavy minimum will be required. The

    top-heavy minimum (after using the safe harbor match to offset the top-heavy minimum, as is

    permitted) is about $90,000. The safe harbor match is only $45,000.

    Is the plan forced to reallocate the $3,500, giving rise to an additional contribution obligation of

    $90,000?


    Credit service prior to date of incorporation?

    shERPA
    By shERPA,

    A physician left a large group in 2014 and set up his own corporation which he owns 100%. He also hired another physician from the same group (as an employee). The entity was incorporated 11/1/14 and operations began in December 2014.

    Question - for purposes of the shareholder Dr's date of hire, when did he first perform an hour of service. He said he was working on the organization of the new practice and corporation for at least 6 months. If the DOH is the date an employee first performs an hour of service, can this date be prior to the date the entity was formed? If so this would be in May of 2014.

    The Dr would like to establish a DB plan this year, but the employee Dr. is an NHCE this year because she is not a shareholder and her 2014 earnings were below the HCE threshold. But this year her earnings are over $265K, and she is 4 years older than the shareholder, making a DB plan problematic. Next year she'll be an HCE and the problem goes away. For 2015, if the shareholder Dr's DOH is prior to 7/1/14, we can get him in a DB this year and the employee Dr is not yet eligible.


    Another reason to hate SIMPLE 401k

    Flyboyjohn
    By Flyboyjohn,

    Intuitively I would think that the employer match under a SIMPLE 401k should be treated as a QNEC subject to in-service distribution restrictions but can't find any support, anybody have a cite?


    can US citizen residing abroad serve as trustee of own solo 401(k) ?

    JJA
    By JJA,

    (YOU CAN SAVE YOURSELF SOME TIME BY JUMPING TO POSTS #3 AND #4, WHERE THE GIST OF THE CASE IS DISCUSSED)

    Hello there and congrats on your forum.

    I have a question relating to section ERISA section 404(b) and the infamous "indicia of ownership" requirement.

    Hypothetical US citizen lives abroad and works as a self employed individual.

    He wants to start a solo 401(k) in the US, where he will rollover his old Keogh plan assets, and serve as its trustee.

    He was told by one, only, of the companies that prepare the plan documents, that this is impossible because it runs afoul of section 404(b) requirements, which state (verbatim): "(a) No fiduciary may maintain the indicia of ownership of any assets of a plan outside the jurisdiction of the district courts of the United States, unless:..."

    http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/retrieveECFR?gp=&SID=9c47fc8bb98170084f4b24aa36e4c6b9&n=29y9.1.3.6.6&r=PART&ty=HTML#se29.9.2550_1404b_61

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/29/2550.404b-1

    I am having an issue with this interpretation which equates the jurisdiction of the US District Courts with their assigned territorial extend for puproses of interior - to the US - administration. Yet the US government has no trouble extending its long (jurisdiction) hand way beyond the US territories when demanding my taxes on foreign income.

    I am arguing that a US citizen, and the documents he/she posseses, are always under the jurisdiction of all US courts regardless of his/her place of abode, and therefore the citizen who wants to act as a trustee of his own, indvidual, 401(k) plan should be able to do so, because, in contrast to a foreigner who can arguably refuse to appear at a US court claiming lack of jurisdiction, and for which such cases I suppose the essence of section 404(b) was created, a US citizen is legally obliged to appear - and bring any evidence he asked to bring - before any US court deciding to drag him back to the US on a short notice.

    Therefore, I am proposing, a US citizen residing abroad and acting as a trustee of his own 401(k) plan, does not violate the ERISA section 404(b) requirements.

    If it can be of any help, from what I understand from DOL Advisory Opinion 2008-04A (https://www.dol.gov/ebsa/regs/aos/ao2008-04a.html) which deals with the issue of "indicia of ownership" but for large plans and foreign investment funds, the argument for the approved exception from 404(b) requirements, even though the "indicia" does not reside physically in the US, goes along similar lines with my argument of citizenship placing the trustee under jurisdiction of US courts. Specifically, the foreign companies, it is argued in the Opinion, who physically hold the "indicia" outside the US territories on behalf of the US investors, are considered to be under the jurisdiction of the US courts because they have signed contracts obliging them to transfer those "indicia" freely to the US if asked to do so by the US based fiduciary with whom they signed such contracts.

    But US citizenship is just such a contract placing the individual under direct US courts jurisdiction, and thus he/she should be able to serve as a plan trustee as per 404(b) requirements.

    Any opinions on this matter ?

    Does anyone know if the DOL has come up with any Advisory Opinions or some other instruction regarding this issue ? Any court cases ?

    Any guidance from any power to be ? or from attorney firms ?

    From what I suspect, people living abroad are acting as their own solo 401(k) trustees and buying foreign Real Estate while holding on to the foreign deeds at their overseas residence, without worrying whether they violate 404(b) or not.

    I am nor sure what the trustees of individual IRAs demand in terms of who holds on to the deeds of foreign Real Estate. The IRA trustees are usually US based and distinct from the owner-trustees of the solo 401(k) plans.

    Thanks many to all who will contribute their opinion.


    RMDs - nonowner and still employed

    doombuggy
    By doombuggy,

    I know that a more than 5% owner and any terminated participants are required to take a distribution once they turn 70.5. We were discussing the options open to those who are 70.5 and still employed (non-owners). I say the option is open to those people to take it if they want to - assuming that the plan allows for in-service withdrawals of course. My coworker disagreed. What are your thoughts? :shades:


    Divorced in 1991 with No QDRO but 1/2 Pension to Exwife

    simpsonwpc
    By simpsonwpc,

    My divorce from Washington was final in February 1991 while I was stationed in Georgia with the US Army. As part of the decree my exwife was to get half my pension from Prudential, previously vested while we were married, but no QDRO was prepared at that time. The current value of the pension is less than $500/month.

    So it's now time to apply for payment of pension benefits and I'm totally lost as to what I do to get the pension papers processed. The folks at Prudential told me I had to go to some site to get information, but everything I see appears for individuals currently going through a divorce and the QDRO is just one more piece of the divorce papers. I live in Utah and my exwife lives in Washington, in the same county the court order for the divorced was issued. I'm a bit lost as to how to move ahead. Does this thing need to be handled in Washington or Utah? Nothing I ready has given me any clue as to how to get this done.


    age 70 1/2

    Scuba 401
    By Scuba 401,

    can contributions be made to an eligible 457(b) for an employee that has already attained age 70 1/2?


    First Filing for Form 5500

    jmawhi76
    By jmawhi76,

    This is the first year we are filing the form 5500. We went to self-funding last year. There are many different rules that we are trying to decide if we have to file and if so what form. We had 70 participants at the beginning of the year, and benefits are paid as needed from the general assets of the employer, and monthly contributions from employees. We also have purchased a stop loss contract through an insurance carrier. From what I am reading we either do not have to file any forms, or can file the 5500-SF, or 5500 with Schedule A and/or schedule I (small plan). We did receive a schedule A after asking the TPA for the information. I am just not sure what or if we need to file. Any suggestions or help would be appreciated.


    next year plan limits

    Tom Poje
    By Tom Poje,

    the CPI factor was released today, and as expected, based on the formula there will be no change next year in any limit.

    the three month total was only 714.915, barely above last year's 714.133.

    I see the govt announced no change in social security, I wouldn't think it will take them long before they make it official no change on the plan limits either.


    Conversion of Limited Purpose FSA Carryover Amounts to General Purpose FSA

    Chaz
    By Chaz,

    An IRS Chief Counsel Advice memorandum (2014-13005) provides that a cafeteria plan can permit employees who have leftover general purpose FSA amounts to elect to roll up to $500 over into a limited purpose FSA for the next plan year and therefore be able to contribute to an HSA for that plan year.

    Can the opposite be done?: An employee participates in an HDHP/HSA and limited purpose FSA in 2015. The employee elects not to participate in the HDHP for 2016 and wants to rollover $500 from the limited purpose FSA into a general purpose FSA for 2016. Can a cafeteria plan so permit?

    Thanks.


    409A - Change in Payment Formula

    Guest vdh2014
    By Guest vdh2014,

    Subject 409A plan uses multiple of salary to determine benefit. Can we change this multiple in the future, and, if so, how do we comply with 409A in doing so?


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