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    Correcting "Restricted Employee" Distribution Error

    In House Counsel
    By In House Counsel,

    We have a DB plan that inadvertently paid a lump sum to a "restricted employee" (i.e. one of highest 25 paid) without first meeting the conditions of Rev Rul 92-76 (eg putting money in escrow, pledging additional property, securing a letter of credit). Any ideas what an acceptable correction method would be? 


    Plan Comp or Full Year Comp for Testing?

    Sully
    By Sully,

    We have a calendar year 401(k) Plan with entry dates of 1/1 and 7/1. The plan excludes compensation before plan entry. A young, Non-Key HCE entered the plan on 7/1 and needs to receive the 3% top heavy minimum on pay for the full year. When performing cross-testing we are only using the employee’s pay while eligible (7/1-12/31) and it is blowing the test.

    Question: Could we use pay for the whole year when doing our new comparability testing? The plan document does not specify what compensation to use when cross-testing.

    Thank you!


    Are we REQUIRED to use IRIS system for 1099-R filing for clients?

    AllThingsForGood
    By AllThingsForGood,

    I am SO confused by this, and cannot find answers. 

     

    I am a TPA, and I have about 15 clients that had participant distributions from their plans during 2024.  That's 15 separate plan-sponsors.  I use Datair - I input each individual's 1099-R data, and print the 1099-R for the participant and the plan's copies.  Then I move on to the next sponsor.  I do this on paper forms that I order, and feed into my printer as I print each 1099-R.

    Am I now required to use the IRIS system??  Or can I keep on doing it the way I've done it -- print XYZ's 401(k) Plan's 1099-Rs, then print ABC's 401(k) Plan's 1099-Rs, and so on?

     

    Thanks!  Trying to be as clear wtih my question as possible.  I appreciate any answer, even if it's fussing at me for being so dense 🫣


    Delinquent Contributions caused by payroll company

    TPApril
    By TPApril,

    it's been determined that a plan sponsor for a large plan did everything right with their payroll uploads, but the payroll company caused a delay in depositing the 401k contributions.

    plan sponsor has since deposited lost earnings and then reported this on multiple 5500's, only now being advised to file a VFCP. No 5330 ever filed though.

    The delinquent contribution amounts are not de minimis, even by potential revised vfcp standards, though lost earnings are under $5k.

    Based on this error, and I know it's often a judgement call, would it be fair to amend the 5500's to remove the delinquent contributions and not go through the effort and cost of a vfcp?


    Should a retirement plan volunteer information to EBSA’s lost-and-found database?

    Peter Gulia
    By Peter Gulia,

    Recently, the US Labor department announced a voluntary information collection request. It invites a retirement plan’s administrator to furnish the name and taxpayer identification number of each separated vested participant owed a benefit (or whose beneficiary is owed a benefit) and is (or would be) 65 or older. See column R on page 91801 https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2024-11-20/pdf/2024-27098.pdf.

    Should a plan’s administrator voluntarily do this?

    If a plan’s administrator evaluates whether to do this, what should such a fiduciary consider?
     


    Can I restart HSA contributions if I terminate Medicare?

    KMB
    By KMB,

    It appears that I have an unusual situation.  I was employed with a HDHP and had been making contributions to an HSA.  My employer had financial problems and it seemed I would lose healthcare.  I was 65 at the time, so I enrolled in Medicare part A & B effective June 1, 2024.  The company is now back on a solid financial footing and I would like to cancel Medicare and start contributing to to my HSA again.  My HDHP coverage is still in effect, in addition to the Medicare A & B.  I would like to terminate now, then re-enroll in Medicare in 2-3 years when I retire.

    I understand it is possible to terminate Medicare A & B using Form CMS-1763.  What is unclear is whether I can restart HSA contributions.  I would appreciate any advice. Thanks.


    FT William Loan Procedures / QDRO Procedures

    austin3515
    By austin3515,

    We just started using the FT William 401k docs.  I was somewhat surprised that neither the loan procedures nor the QDRO procedures has a place to sign.  Similarly, there is no incorporation by reference of either one in the basic plan document or the Adoption Agreement.  Nor are they approved/adopted as attachments to the resolution/consent to action.

    I was just curious if anyone had pondered this before.  I had asked FT "Where are these procedures actually adopted by the Employer" and their response was basically that the IRS had approved the appoach (which obviously is true!).

    I mean I trust them of course but would be happy if there was a straightforward answer to this question... 


    sole prop becomes an LLC during plan start up...

    AlbanyConsultant
    By AlbanyConsultant,

    I'm working on setting up a new combo plan for a one-person sole prop business.  Halfway through, I realize that there is no EIN for the sole prop business.  The sole prop rightly does not want to use their SSN on the plan documents, so I recommended that he get an EIN for his sole prop.

    Then I get is an email from the CPA saying that they created an LLC (taxed as a sole prop) effective 12/1/24 and got an EIN for that, and that should be the plan sponsor.

    I'm not sure this solves the problem.  Can I say that ALL the 2024 income is counted under the LLC?  I guess it will depend on what's on the Schedule C.  And can I even use the full 2024 limits if the LLC is the only sponsor of the plan (I get tripped up on the pro rating rules, even when following along the EOB)?  I thought of having the original sole prop also adopt the plan... but then I'm back to where I started with the sole prop not having an EIN so I have to use the SSN on the plan document (though not on the 5500-EZ, so maybe that's a little better).  All my projections are of course based on his full year expected compensation.

    Is there a solution here?  Or is it not a problem at all?

    Thanks.

     


    not surviving spouse?

    robin
    By robin,

    I was divorced a year ago with a Qdro separate interest with annuity at fifty percent, My husband passed away at 65 before retiring. I am listed as surviving spouse but Plan Adm tell me that because i am already receiving annuity i am no longer considered surviving spouse. I never signed any consent form to give up my surviving spouse rights.


    Amending plan to change definition of Retirement Age - Impact?

    JA
    By JA,

    Plan currently has a retirement age of 55.   They allow installments if you are retirement age when you separate, otherwise lump sum.  Sponsor wants to change the retirement age to 60.  My question is, can that be done retroactively for all current participants?  or must it only be allowed for new monies deferred after the amended change?   It's not accelerating a payment and trying to track what and when someone is paid if they separate is going to be very cumbersome.  I appreciate any thoughts on this. 


    IRA beneficiary deceased prior to distribution of benefits - can estate disclaim

    BST
    By BST,

    Parent passed away and adult child passed away shortly thereafter.  We are still within the 9 month disclaimer period from parent's date of death.  The estate of the child wishes to disclaim IRA so it can pass other beneficiaries.  Custodian says this can't be done.    Are they correct or can the estate disclaim because we are still in the disclaimer period?   If possible to disclaim,  any citation or other guidance  to give the custodian would be appreciated.       


    Solo 401k RMD

    rtheis
    By rtheis,

    Does the employee need to make have an RMD processed.  Individual is 75 opened a Solo 401k in 2024 and made a prior year contribution for 2023.  The question is do they need to make RMD distribution for the 2023 year.  If so, how would it be calculated since the prior year balance is $0.00.


    Testing Related Group Plans

    415 Limit
    By 415 Limit,

    I'm considering taking over the administration of three plans that are part of a controlled group. 

    All plans have the same plan year-end, none of the plans are safe harbor, and all use the current-year testing method.

    Plan A - The profit sharing formula is integrated with Social Security, and they plan to allocate a $40,000 contribution.  There are 3 employees (all eligible) in total, 1 is an HCE, and 1 of the 2 NHCE's also works for Employer B.

    Plan B - The profit sharing formula is cross-tested, with each participant in their own group, and they plan to allocate a $100,000 contribution.  There are 100 eligible employees, of which 21 are HCE's, and 79 are NHCE's (the 79 includes the 1 employee that also works for Employer A).

    Plan C - no wages were paid by Employer C during the plan year in question, therefore there are no contributions.

    How would these plans be tested:

    • 410(b) test on the 401(k) Deferral component - should the plans be aggregated for this test, or should each plan run its own test?

    • 410(b) test on the Non-Elective component - should the plans be aggregated for this test, or should each plan run its own test?
    • 401(a) - should the plans be aggregated for this test, or should each plan run its own test?
    • ADP test - should the plans be aggregated for this test, or should each plan run its own test?

    I see a few issues here already, but before I go down a rabbit hole, I'd appreciate any input on how to move forward.

    Thanks in advance.


    Automatic Enrollment Opt-Out

    John K
    By John K,

    I have a plan that was not designed in a manner that works well for the business.  Eligibility is immediate and 95% of employees are seasonal/part-time and in college.

    Regarding automatic enrollment in 2025, can the sponsor use the employee's initial opt-out from when they were hired as an election to defer 0%?  Or does there need to be a formal (in writing) opt-out following the EACA notice that was distributed?


    Definition of Compensation for CB Plan

    metsfan026
    By metsfan026,

    We have an S-Corp who is telling me that the owner is no longer going to be receiving a W2 and instead receiving K-1 income.  Is there a way to utilize the K-1 income for the salary?  Just trying to help the client.  I've read that K-1 can only be used if it's a partnership, but I wasn't sure if that was accurate or not.

    Thanks in advance!


    401(k) Asset Sale/Assume Plan Sponsorship Questions

    Interested Party
    By Interested Party,

    Here is the situation:

    * LLC sponsors 401(k) plan.

    * S Corp owns 100% of LLC.

    * S Corp is selling 100% of LLC's assets -- including the name of the LLC -- to three current individuals/employees as of 12/31/24.  The three employees will become equal owners/members of the LLC following the asset sale.

    * The three individuals will assume sponsorship of the plan and continue to operate the LLC and the plan under the same names.

    Have I thought this through correctly?

    1. Documents need to be drafted, stating that the three individuals will operate the LLC under the same name and will assume sponsorship of the plan.

    2. This transaction will constitute a continuation of the plan (i.e., no distributable event, crediting of service will be required, etc. as if this was a corporate stock sale).

    3. The plan does not need to be restated and the plan will file a 5500 as a continuing plan.

    4. No formal transfer agreement is needed . . . . Just documentation stating that the new buyers/owners of LLC will accept all assets/liabilities associated with the plan.

    5. Am I missing something?  Do I need to obtain additional information and/or take any other action in connection with the transaction?

    Any help/insight would be appreciated.  Thanks.

     


    5500 filed late, not under DFVCP, then employer received CP283 penalty notice and paid it

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    We got a question on a situation where this occurred. The employer wants to know if they can get a refund. Large plan 5500.

    I've never even had a discussion with anyone who has seen this specific situation. 

    First, in a situation where a form has been filed late, but not under DFVCP, I've seen a good deal of discussion where the recommendation is to file an amended form ASAP, checking the box that it is being filed under DFVCP, and filing ASAP under DFVCP. Folks appear to have had success with this, even if a CP283 has been sent. Agree/disagree? But now the question is whether that option is still available if the employer already paid the CP283 penalty? And if so, how does the employer go about requesting a refund? Sending what we used to call the "tear stained " letter? If so, I think they need to engage the services of someone with direct negotiating experience in such situations. 

    Appreciate any thoughts. 


    Money Purchase Plan termination where assets are with TIAA in individual annuities

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    So, has anyone done a plan termination lately with TIAA where assets are in individual annuities? We haven't for quite some time, and there were, to say the least, difficulties.

    When you are terminating a plan, the participant has to be given the option to get a distribution, or roll over the funds. But TIAA "requires" (or did require) the participants themselves to call TIAA if they wanted to surrender. And participants frequently won't bother to do this in a timely fashion. 

    Do you know how they handle this now? And do you by any chance have the contact information for a person at TIAA who actually KNOWS something and is willing to discuss how a plqan termination can be handled in this situation so that a final 5500 can be filed?

    Thanks in advance! 


    MEP 403(b) Plan and SECURE

    HCE
    By HCE,

    We have a 403(b) Plan that is a multiple employer plan (MEP).

    Under SECURE 2.0, new 403(b) Plans (established after 12/29/2022) are required to include auto-enrollment/auto-escalation.  Would this apply to new employers who join the MEP?  The MEP itself is not a new plan, but would a new employer who joins the MEP be considered to have started a new plan by joining the MEP?  Are there any exceptions or ways out of this new requirement? 

    While different employers in the MEP do have some flexibility regarding the MEP, its much easier if the MEP is mostly uniform across all participating employers (so having auto-enrollment/escalation for some and not others makes it more complex to administer).

    While we're at it, is there any way around the Long-Term Part-Term rules?  I don't think so, but figured I'd ask while I'm here.

    EDIT:  According to Notice 2024-02 (https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-24-02.pdf), it looks like an employer joining a MEP after 12/29/2022 is treated as starting a new plan.  There is a possible exemption if the employer joining the MEP already had a pre-12/29/2022 plan and is treated as merging into the MEP, the employer can treat the MEP as a continuation of the older plan, rather than a new plan.  I think this answers my question -- whether you agree or disagree I appreciate your comments!


    Voluntary employee contributions (after-tax), associated match and distribution timing

    WCC
    By WCC,

    A 401k plan allows for voluntary employee contributions (i.e. after-tax) and the plan matches voluntary employee contributions.

    Are there any regulations that would stop an employee from making voluntary employee contributions, receiving the match, then taking a withdrawal of the voluntary employee contributions the next day? Essentially a strategy of obtaining the match then getting their contribution back immediately. 

    I understand the document would have to allow it and ACP testing needs to be passed, but is there a regulation that say's this cannot be done?

    Thanks


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