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- Will I need to file two separate late returns using Form 5500-EZ and pay the associated $1,000 in penalties for the ETrade accounts that were closed? Or is it possible that I may only need to file one considering I made zero contributions to the Traditional account?
- Do the sole proprietorship and the S-Corp qualify as affiliated employers? If so, did I violate the successor plan rule by opening the Vanguard 401k within 12 months of terminating the ETrade accounts? What penalties would this incur and how would I rectify this?
- If the sole prop and S-Corp are affiliated, do I need to amend the plan sequence number on my current Vanguard solo 401k account to be 003?
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8955-SSA for ESOP's
Not actually a 5500 question - is there any penalty relief program for late or non-filing of the 8955-SSA for ESOP plans, similar to the programs for late 5500 forms?
Nope.
22. Is there a delinquent filer program for late filers of Form 8955-SSA?
There is no delinquent filer program where only the Form 8955-SSA (or schedule SSA) is delinquent. Notice 2014-35, however, provides penalty relief in cases where the Form 5500 series return is also delinquent and the filer is eligible for and satisfies the requirements of the Department of Labor's Delinquent Filer Voluntary Compliance Program. See IRS Penalty Relief for DOL DFVC Filers of Late Annual Reports.
P.S. it appears that no SSA reporting would be required for participants in pay status - e.g. receiving payments over 5 years, etc. - but I'm not aware of any dispensation for not filing the form if, for example, they must have a 5-year break in service, or reach age 65, etc..., or if a participant elects to postpone distributions.
Intrusive Investment Provider Forms
A TPA client was told by an investment provider that in order for the provider to reveal information about mutual clients they have to be an authorized TPA and in order to do so they have to complete a form that the TPA deems intrusive because it asks about their book of business, revenue, insurance policies etc. etc.
How do other TPA firms deal with this - do you simply provide the requested information? Thanks.
Use of FSA rollover if not contributing in subsequent year?
Client has FSA that allows rollover of unused FSA balance up to IRS maximum. Plan year is 7/1 - 6/30. For 2023 PY, employee had unused funds that rolled over 7/1/24; however, employee did not elect to make contributions for 2024 PY (and there are no employer contributions to the FSA). Can the employee use the rollover from 2023 PY for expenses incurred in 2024 PY? My initial reaction is the employee is not a participant in the FSA for the 2024 PY so they cannot submit for reimbursement of expenses in 2024 PY. Do we treat the employee similar to a terminated employee and allow a run-out period to spend down their rollover balance? Any thoughts (as citation to official guidance, etc.) are appreciated!
DFVCP for earlier year
Hi
Thank you as always for the insights. We need to Efile a 2020 5500 for a DB PLAN with the DFVCP. The new rules say we must efile 2020, and prior years, using the 2023 forms. I noticed on line that however, for the SB the correct year form can be used and signed and attached as a pdf to the e-filing and to label it other attachment.
Question. Does this mean that we only file the 23 5500 and the sb is only filed as a pdf attachment? OR IS the 23 SB filled out for the 20 year, and efiled along with the 5500sf. And then 2 sb attachments will be attached. One attachment being a pdf of the signed 23 sb(with the 2020 on it obviously) that is labeled mb sb actuary signature and then we must attach a pdf of the signed copy of the 2019 year sb labeled other attachment?
Thank you.
410(b) testing - Top Heavy min only participants
Hi Everyone,
I've read through this link
but its an older one, and I just want to make sure I'm understanding it correctly for a plan's situation.
Profit Sharing only plan - plan document specifies pro-rata allocation method, so I recognize it is relying on the allocation method safe harbor, rather than general testing, 401a4.
Plan has a 1,000 hours and last day requirement, and most years there are a few part-time folks who are required to receive only the top heavy minimum.
The 70% test does pass if those folks are included as benefiting. It does not if they are not counted as benefiting. Based on my reading of the link above - it sounds like I can't include them as benefiting?
The plan document does not have the 410(b) fail safe language, so if allocation conditions need to be waived for anything other the top heavy min, a corrective amendment will be needed.
Or, the plan would have to move on to more general testing and see if it passes, if it still doesn't pass, then then aforementioned amendment comes into play.
Am I understanding this correctly?
Do you include top heavy min only participants as benefiting in the regular ratio percentage test?
Top Hat Plan Restatement - DOL Filing Required?
Our company has made a plan restatement of our Top Hat Plan.
After this restatement, do we need to file a statement of this change with the DOL? i.e. using this online filing tool? https://www.askebsa.dol.gov/tophatplansearch
Client deposited profit sharing monies to safe harbor account and safe harbor monies to profit sharing account.
I am surprised I have never had this issue. I have a client who deposited funds the profit sharing allocations of the participants into their safe harbor accounts and safe harbor allocations into profit sharing accounts. The funds are held at John Hancock. Is there a way to correct this? I just want to transfer the difference between the accounts. Should there be an effort to estimate the earnings and move those funds as well? I do not recall reading about corrective measures in this situation.
RMDs for Multiple Employer Plans
I have a situation where I have a closed MEP that includes Company A and Company B. Company A has different ownership than Company B. The owner of Company B is over age 72 and has an account balance in the plan derived from being an employee at Company A (in which he has no ownership). Is he required to take an RMD since he is an 5% owner in ONE of the companies that sponsors the plan?
I found this, but that is all I can find. I told him he does have to take an RMD and he wants additional documentation and I understand his argument.
Retirement plan and IRA Required Minimum Distributions FAQs | Internal Revenue Service (irs.gov)
Form 5330 - paper filings allowed for 2023
This may have already been shared - but I didn't see if offhand, so thought I would pass it along.
The IRS has decided paper filing is okay, just document that the reason for the paper filing is lack of authorized vendors.
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Treas. Reg. 54.6011-3(a) requires a taxpayer to file Form 5330, Return of Excise Taxes Related to Employee Benefit Plans, electronically for taxable years ending on or after December 31, 2023, if the filer is required to file at least 10 returns of any type during the calendar year that the Form 5330 is due. Treas. Reg. 54.6011-3 (b) and Instructions for Form 5330 also provide, on an annual basis, exclusions from electronic filing requirements in cases of undue hardship.
Form 5330 can be filed electronically using the IRS Modernized e-File (MeF) System through an IRS authorized Form 5330 e-file provider. Currently, IRS has only one authorized e-filing provider for the Form 5330. As a result of the lack of authorized e-file providers for the Form 5330, the IRS has determined that a filer is permitted to file a paper Form 5330 for the 2024 taxable year. The filer should document that the reason for not filing electronically and filing a paper Form 5330 is the lack of authorized vendors."
Retained Earnings - Qualified Retirement Plan
How can a company’s owner “use up” his Retained Earnings by utilizing/opening a qualified retirement plan?
I know a tiny bit about accounting, and I have a potential client (architect) who wants to reduce his RE by opening a Profit Sharing/Cash Balance combo. He's 59 years old.
Advice? Knowledge?
Thank you!
Controlled Group - Combo plan deduction
Hi
Non PBGC covered combo plans
Sponsored by a corporation with the employees and a sole-prop. Joe owns both entities.
Needs to use 31% rule.
Under the corporation satisfied the 31% rule.
Under the sole-prop only deducting CB for Joe only. No DC deduction.
If you combine them for total deduction, fails 31% rule.
However, ss they are separately deducting the contributions, I think it is ok to test deductions separately.
Am I wrong?
Late Form 5500-EZ & Successor Plan Rule
Edit: I’m happy to pay a professional to advise on how best to navigate the situation I’ve described below Would anybody here be willing to take this on? Or be able to refer me to somebody that can? I’ve reached out to a few professionals and unfortunately have not had any luck Thank you.
Hello, I am self-employed and have been contributing to a solo 401k since 2022, but I think that I’ve made some mistakes that I need help resolving. I've asked my CPA and his 401k plan administrator, but they are unsure of how to help me.
In January 2022 I opened a Traditional Solo 401k and Roth Solo 401k at ETrade. When setting up the accounts, I used Plan Numbers 001 and 002 as directed by ETrade. The Plan Sponsor was my sole proprietorship. I made zero contributions to the Traditional and $3,000 to the Roth.
A few months later I decided to establish an S-Corp, and I opened up another Solo 401k account at Vanguard with the S-Corp as the sponsor. For this account I used Plan Number 001. Since I didn’t plan to operate the sole proprietorship any longer, I closed the two accounts at ETrade and rolled the Roth 401k balance into an existing Roth IRA that I hold at Vanguard.
I am now realizing that I should have filed Form 5500-EZ after closing the ETrade accounts. I am also wondering if I may have violated the successor plan rule by erroneously considering the sole proprietorship and S-Corp to be separate employers rather than an affiliated / controlled group.
Questions:
Safe Harbor Plan and ACA
We have a Safe Harbor Plan that would like to add Automatic Contribution Arrangement (ACA) mid-year for 2024.
I have 2 questions.
1) Can a Safe Harbor Plan add an ACA feature? To me, it seems like a Safe Harbor plan can only be a QACA, so ACA feature cannot be added. Is that correct?
2) If the ACA feature can be added to a Safe Harbor Plan, can the feature be added Mid-Year (I realize that a Safe Harbor plan cannot be changed to QACA mid-year)?
Thanks.
SIMPLE IRA into DB Plan - 2024
Hi
Currently have a SIMPLE IRA. Wants to add a DB plan for 2024.
I thought cannot do it, what am I missing?
"Rehired" if e/e comes back for 1 day as a temp?
Employee is terminated on 4/22/24, his pension paperwork is produced with a Benefit Commencement Date of 5/1/2024. He is then asked to work on an “on-call” basis, so a job is opened for him, but he only works one day for 8 hours on 5/18/24. Plan is now terminating.
Plan doc says in order to be considered rehired, e/e has to work 40 hours. Under this defn, 5/18 would not be considered re-employment and he could go and roll his money out. But then the plan doc is vague on how employment is defined (just say employee is any person in the employ of the Company). For vesting purposes, he has not incurred a break in service. The definition of "Eligible Employee" excludes temporary workers.
Can he take action on his pension as of date of his termination (4/22) or not until he's done working (i.e., after 5/18?)
Is he is considered re-employed on 5/18 because he's on the books with a job set up? Or does he actually have to work 40 hours a week? If the plan is vague do I apply common law principles to decide whether he's a temp or an employee?
father owns business, son over age 21 only employee
Have a company , father owns 100% of business and son over age 21 is only employee- I realize due to attrition rules the son also owns 100% - so is this a one man plan that I can file a 5500 EZ , or do I need to do an Sf?
Paid my COBRA premiums but employer stopped sending them in??
I’m on WA state and have been on COBRA through my previous employer (I quit and went to work somewhere else) for around 10 months. I have paid on time every month and have been using the coverage with no issues. This weekend I received notice from a provider that they got a denial of payment for June services from my insurance because “coverage was terminated”. I paid my June (and July) premiums to my former employer on time just like all the other months, and they took the money as usual. I never asked for my coverage to be terminated, did everything per usual on my end. There is no possibility of any issues with my payments, they are always done electronically and the billing office at my former employer confirmed receipt of each payment. I have emailed the billing office to see what is going on but likely won’t hear until Monday, but I looked at my insurance online and I see the EOBs that began denying claims starting in June. What are my legal options is my former employer screwed up and stopped sending in my payments? I actually planned to switch my coverage to my new employers plan at the end of this month thankfully, but that is still 1.5 - 2 months of no coverage because old employer somehow screwed the pooch?? COBRA max is 18 months here in WA, so I didn’t max out on time or anything.
2 late 5500-EZ and one timely 5500-EZ
Owner-only plan didn't file 5500-EZ in 2021 or 2022. Is it recommended to file the two late 5500-EZs separate from the timely filed 2023 Form 5500-EZ? It seems to me that filing them all together would make more sense since there wouldn't be a situation where the timely form is processed before the late forms, resulting in correspondence. Thanks for your input.
Safe Harbor Plan - Mid-Year Formula Change and Automatic Enrollment
We have a Safe Harbor 401(k) plan that has a basic match formula (100% on the first 3% and 50% on the next 2%).
They would like to add the automatic contribution arrangement that would be a flat 4%. Can a Safe Harbor plan add ACA (not EACA or QACA) at 4%?
Also, can they change the formula to 100% match on the first 4% instead of the current formula? Based on what I found here: https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/mid-year-changes-to-safe-harbor-401k-plans-and-notices, it looks like it's permissible assuming it applies to the entire year.
In this case, I believe we will need to do 2 amendments. One amendment would amend the Safe Harbor formula effective 1/1/2024. The second amendment would amend the plan to flat 4% ACA, effective now. I would think that we can't combine these amendments in one, since the effective date for the Safe Harbor formula change has to be 1/1/2024, but the ACA feature was not available for the entire year, so it can't have an effective date of 1/1/2024. Would you agree?
Thanks!
1094 and 1095 reporting gap in a divestiture
Hi!
Company A is selling Division Z to Company B with the close date being mid-month.
Company A will stop providing health coverage to Division Z employees mid-month at close. Company B will start providing health coverage to these employees at close (no time without coverage).
However, since Division Z employees were not offered health coverage for each day of the month at Company A, there will be a reporting gap for 1094 and 1095 purposes. Likewise, for Company B.
Has anyone dealt with this before? Is there a workaround here to eliminate the coverage gap, other than requesting company A keep benefits turned on through the end of the month?









