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New Comparability Contributions - made throughout the year
CuseFan replied to AlwaysLearning's topic in Cross-Tested Plans
Check your plan document as to when specific contributions are allocated to participants to make sure document supports your actions, or at least does not prohibit or contradict them. If it's a matter of cash flow, then using a holding account for PS deposits until year-end might be way to go, but if it's because owners want to invest their PS ASAP then that obviously doesn't work. -
Agree with all - if client is unable, unwilling or otherwise problematic in getting you basic required information they should readily have, including census history (at least recent years), the last few valuation reports, and the latest plan document, then I would have little confidence that they'll instantly turn over a new leaf and in the future provide you with everything you need each year on a timely basis. Remember, it's usually 10% of your clients that cause 90% of your problems, so if you can identify and avoid someone likely to be in that 10% (and thereby shrink it), then walking away might be your best course of action unless the size of the engagement is meaningful to your practice.
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Definitely not #1. #2 or #3, or combination thereof as the deduction(s) will need to be within the applicable limits for the applicable years. Nor am I, so I also suggest the client discusses with their accountant.
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Distribution made from corporate account
CuseFan replied to Belgarath's topic in Retirement Plans in General
I have seen many instances over the years where the plan's check writing function passed through the corporate account - not a best practice but in and of itself probably not a compliance problem BUT, maybe an issue if there is any float, especially if checks not cashed timely. If checking account does not pay interest, then I think OK. The important issues are tax withholding and remitting (if/when required) and reporting - running through a corporate account does not change any aspects of those requirements. -
Anything you do that increases benefits will have to satisfy nondiscrimination. You don't describe any of the circumstances that we would consider in dealing with this - amount/percentage of over funded status, number and ages of owners, if owner benefits are tracking at 415 limits, the relative number of employees/participants, how mature the plan is and whether the plan is aggregated with a DCP to pass testing or you have combined plan deduction limits that apply. A joint discussion with the plan sponsor and investment advisor is warranted because a 21% return sounds great but at what risk and, if owner benefits are at or near 415, why construct the portfolio in that manner? This is a much different discussion if you have a $10M plan that just created $1.5M in excess versus a $1M plan that created $150,000 in excess. Again, depending on particular circumstances, we usually recommend a number of alternatives, sometimes individually and sometimes in combination, including reducing future contributions, amending to increase benefits (usually a one-time balance increase, and possibly reducing contribution to CBP to offset additional PS contributions that are often needed to satisfy testing), paying eligible plan expenses from plan assets, and retaining a cushion for various reasons such as the 110% threshold to pay HCE lump sums or protecting against a down year in the business or the market (although ROR ICR does that for most part). This is a good problem to have but the key is to not let the over funded position get out of control - but what constitutes out of control depends on the particulars surrounding the plan. Good luck.
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No doubt, and these departments always seem to be understaffed - so my derision is cast not at the people, but at the institution, LOL! But where a well-staffed IRS might mean quicker turnaround on VCP and d-letter submissions, it could also mean an uptick in audit activity, so I'm OK with them running on a skeleton crew!
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The footnote to the ERISA regulation noted here is the language that follows it: 29 CFR § 2530.203-3 - Suspension of pension benefits upon employment. (Approved by the Office of Management and Budget under control number 1210-0048) [46 FR 8903, Jan. 27, 1981, as amended at 46 FR 59245, Dec. 4, 1981; 46 FR 60572, Dec. 11, 1981; 49 FR 18295, Apr. 30, 1984] As you can see, this goes back to the 80's. I seem to recall that pension plans could cease accruals after NRA and that either TEFRA, DEFRA or REA outlawed that and in conjunction required SOBs or actuarial increases. I started my career in 1984 (dang! where does the time go?) and remember there were a lot of pension legislation changes as the protections of a then-young ERISA were built upon in addition to using pension legislation as a tool to shape federal tax policy. The more things change, the more they stay the same!
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Same story here - they got my current ERPA renewal and asked for proof of the prior cycle, so I emailed prior cycle form and gov.pay receipt and was then told I'm renewed for the next cycle and my renewal should come in the mail within the next 14 business days. We are now 25 business days and nothing received, so just sent an email. We'll see.
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The date to determine here is the annuity starting date, which for a lump sum is the date by which all actions/events necessary to pay the lump sum have been completed, i.e., QJSA notice, valid benefit election and spousal consent (if applicable). This does not have to be the date of cutting the check or transferring funds as you are allowed reasonable administrative delay. Typically, for a 5/1 ASD and lump sum valued as of such date, we'll want everything completed and returned before such date if possible (or completed before such date and returned not long after) such that the lump sum can be physically paid before 6/1. For a plan termination, we would value benefits as a proposed/estimated distribution date of 5/1 and then make sure benefits were all paid in early May, but if it didn't happen until 5/4, not a problem. (14th and 17th in your case) If you have some excess because of market value changes, allocate if required/possible or use for expenses - but assets should have been in cash so a couple of days' interest would be minimal, and if they weren't, that's another discussion.
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1. Yes as there is no requirement that the plan year and the fiscal year be the same. This could be continued indefinitely. That said, if you also have a DC plan and need to aggregate the DBP with the DCP to satisfy coverage and nondiscrimination testing, then those plans MUST have the same plan years. 2. If I remember correctly, and someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you had three options (1) deduct the PY contribution in the tax year in which the PY ends (so $275k for PYE 7/31/2020 would be deducted on 2020 return), (2) deduct the PY contribution in the tax year in which the PY begins (so $275k for PYB 8/1/2019 would be deducted on 2019 return, presumably the short 2019 tax year), or (3) a proration. I also thought that you had to apply whichever methodology consistently from year to year. I don't know how the short fiscal year affects this. Unless you had a aggregated plan testing need, I don't think you can do a DFVCP or EPCRS filing for what amounts to forgetting a discretionary amendment to make administration easier.
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If SEP is on IRS model Form 5305-SEP, that document precludes having any other retirement plan, so he might also have the headache of finding and paying for a provider's SEP document in addition to a 401(k) document. Seems like a lot of hassle to avoid a very easy/minimal 5500-EZ (until such time as the final return is needed).
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Top Heavy with dual eligibility for deferral and safe harbor
CuseFan replied to Lou81's topic in 401(k) Plans
That is correct - every non-key employee who is in the plan for some portion/money-type and is employed at year-end must get at least 3% of annual 2020 compensation from employer contributions to satisfy top-heavy. -
SEP IRA 3-Year Eligibility Requirement
CuseFan replied to Claude's topic in SEP, SARSEP and SIMPLE Plans
Of course that assumes those individuals were truly independent contractors. If nothing in the relationship changed except the employer "flipped a switch" and presto chango now everyone is magically an employee, then there is certainly some risk that IRS could retroactively reclassify them as employees from the start. Absent one or more of these individuals pursuing/inquiring about this directly with IRS or DOL, the chances of such are probably slim but something of which the employer should be aware I would think. -
I actually had a client that extended their return, filed shortly after the original due date claiming the sizeable DBP deduction which generated a sizeable tax refund received before the extension expired and which they then used to fund the required DB contribution.
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Additional Medicare Tax and SE Calcs
CuseFan replied to JackS's topic in Retirement Plans in General
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Related. From the top-heavy regs: T-32 Q. How are rollovers and plan-to-plan transfers treated in testing whether a plan is top-heavy? A. The rules for handling rollovers and transfers depend upon whether they are unrelated (both initiated by the employee and made from a plan maintained by one employer to a plan maintained by another employer) or related (a rollover or transfer either not initiated by the employee or made to a plan maintained by the same employer). Generally, a rollover or transfer made incident to a merger or consolidation of two or more plans or the division of a single plan into two or more plans will not be treated as being initiated by the employee. The fact that the employer initiated the distribution does not mean that the rollover was not initiated by the employee. For purposes of determining whether two employers are to be treated as the same employer, all employers aggregated under section 414(b), (c) or (m) are treated as the same employer. In the case of unrelated rollovers and transfers, (1) the plan making the distribution or transfer is to count the distribution as a distribution under section 416(g)(3), and (2) the plan accepting the rollover or transfer is not to consider the rollover or transfer as part of the accrued benefit if such rollover or transfer was accepted after December 31, 1983, but is to consider it as part of the accrued benefit if such rollover or transfer was accepted prior to January 1, 1984. In the case of related rollovers and transfers, the plan making the distribution or transfer is not to count the distribution or transfer under section 416(g)(3) and the plan accepting the rollover or transfer counts the rollover or transfer in the present value of the accrued benefits. Rules for related rollovers and transfers do not depend on whether the rollover or transfer was accepted prior to January 1, 1984.
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Yes
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Pension calculation for two Schedule C's
CuseFan replied to Vinny's topic in Retirement Plans in General
$45,000 all around (aggregate the two apples in one sauce). If the $50,000 was W-2 from S or C-corp, and $5,000 loss from a sole prop, then (although there is no clear guidance) the thought is you don't cross the streams and you're looking at $50k for comp. I garnered this from an excellent ASPPA webcast on earned income given by Darrin Watson. -
Yes, VAT for 2020 should have been contributed in 2020. You don't need to immediately convert, but if you don't then you have earnings which are taxable upon conversion. If you go over 415 you refund excess as defined in the plan (likely the VAT/Roth first). You run this risk any/every year you don't know in advance what the component contribution amounts will be. Also, the plan must have a Roth feature, in-plan conversion feature, allow for VAT contributions, and those VAT contributions need to be ACP tested.
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Specifically, I think this applies to all that had not entered the plan as of the effective date of the amendment - but in this case they are the same as entry was immediate upon satisfaction of eligibility requirements.
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hardship and the DIY guy
CuseFan replied to AlbanyConsultant's topic in Distributions and Loans, Other than QDROs
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No. What happens if the plan terminates? Will they only fully vest actives? The only issue I'm aware of is that an amendment that increases benefits for former employees must be looked at for non-discrimination separately with respect to such former employees. If your group of former employees with balances is predominantly HCEs and many NHCEs have already been cashed out at the lower vested percentage, then you could have an issue.
