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Read the document! We just had a similar discussion. Union service counts toward eligibility. Now they go from ineligible class to eligible class and the plan should specify how they are treated. All pre-approved plans I have seen say that these employees enter the plan on the date they become eligible employees if they have already satisfied the (age and service) eligibility requirements.
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Nonqualified Plan Distribution and Eligible 401(k) Compensation
CuseFan replied to PensionPro's topic in 401(k) Plans
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Nonqualified Plan Distribution and Eligible 401(k) Compensation
CuseFan replied to PensionPro's topic in 401(k) Plans
If he would have been paid that $800k in February had he remained employed, then you have to look closer at your comp definition, but if this payment is due to/triggered by his termination of employment then I don't think there is any question that it is NOT plan compensation. -
I agree, if you are not required to withhold taxes at the source (which you can't because it's not cash) - GTL is another item that is not included in 3401(a) definition but is included in W2 reportable (6041/6051) definition - then it's not 3401(a) wages.
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Ton of over funding - Take over plan
CuseFan replied to Earl's topic in Defined Benefit Plans, Including Cash Balance
We have an older owner with a wife who is 25 years younger with a DBP that is well over funded on a lump sum basis but, if I recall correctly, is either fully funded or slightly under funded on a 100% fully subsidized/unreduced J&S basis. The liability would be even greater if they went to purchase such an annuity from an insurer. So maybe something like that is a possibility? -
1 company taking over another's 401k plan
CuseFan replied to Santo Gold's topic in Retirement Plans in General
Yes, by going to work for the other employer, does that mean he will no longer be in business for himself and have self-employment income? If he still have material SE income, it may make sense to maintain the solo plan, and he maintains control rather than having those assets in another employer's plan. -
401K Loans in two different plans for the same employer
CuseFan replied to sfabello's topic in 401(k) Plans
If ERISA 403(b) then employer is responsible for monitoring compliance with that, and if non-ERISA, I believe employer is supposed to get info-sharing agreements among the vendors so that these limits can be properly monitored between them - if I remember correctly (not a 403b practitioner and know enough to be dangerous!). -
Providing Top Heavy in the Cash Balance Plan
CuseFan replied to MLML's topic in Defined Benefit Plans, Including Cash Balance
Agreed, the TH minimum is a "benefit" not an account balance, and plan must pay the LSPV of that benefit regardless of the account balance. Maybe you can translate into an additional balance/TH credit and side track it along the way for the client's edification and prevent surprises. -
Also, there could be a 415 control group if he owns more than 50%, even if not a control group for coverage and nondiscrimination (and don't forget affiliated service group possibility if service firms). So make sure that 50% is 50% and not 50.01%. And double check those rules, sometimes you see "considered owning" and you need to also consider options as well.
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Governmental entity pension rules may be (and often are) different, but in the private sector a ex-spouse has the ability to file a QDRO after the death of his/her ex. Also, the beneficiary of any survivor annuity is determined at the "annuity starting date" - when the pension payments started. If John is married to Jane when payments begin as a joint and survivor annuity, then Jane is the beneficiary of the survivor annuity, even if they divorce and he subsequently marries Jill. If you married after he already started receiving his pension, then you cannot be spousal beneficiary. Plans are allowed to treat employees are unmarried until they have been married for one year, but this only impacts pre-retirement death benefits and a joint and survivor election at retirement, neither which seem to apply here.
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Terminating Plan and RMD
CuseFan replied to perplexedbypensions's topic in Distributions and Loans, Other than QDROs
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There are attorneys who will review (for a fee of course) a document and give an opinion that the document complies with a Cumulative List - a pseudo determination letter. The key is that there is at least an initial or latest 5-year cycle determination letter secured.
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Allocation Formula change on last day of plan year
CuseFan replied to JustnERPA's topic in Cross-Tested Plans
Yes, as of that date everyone still employed has earned the right to an allocation on that (pro-rata) basis. -
Union and now Non Union
CuseFan replied to SSRRS's topic in Defined Benefit Plans, Including Cash Balance
Lou is correct, especially when saying to check the document (which should always be the first point of reference). All the pre-approved plans I've seen specifically tell you what to do. For example, in FTW it's clear the person would enter 8/31/2017. Section 3.02 TRANSFERS If a change in job classification or a transfer results in an individual no longer qualifying as an Eligible Employee, such Employee shall cease to be a Participant for purposes of Article 4 (or shall not become eligible to become a Participant) as of the effective date of such change of job classification or transfer. Should such Employee again qualify as an Eligible Employee or if an Employee who was not previously an Eligible Employee becomes an Eligible Employee, he shall become a Participant for purposes of Article 4 for which the eligibility requirements have been satisfied as of the later of the effective date of such subsequent change of status or the date the Employee meets the eligibility requirements of this Article 3. -
QDRO necessary for what? A QDRO is an optional legal division of retirement plan benefits. Even in a divorce a QDRO is not a given. If you aren't splitting benefits between two parties here, there is no reason for a QDRO. If you are, or the parties want to, then you need a QDRO.
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Assuming there were no discretionary/non-statutory changes in the restatement, you should be OK.
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They would if they were being cross-tested. As Tom noted - you test the OEs separately on an allocation basis, so that group does not need the gateway.
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How to protect your 401k from a looming recession?
CuseFan replied to Stella's topic in 401(k) Plans
Exactly. The answer(s) is (are) dramatically different if you are 35 or 55, have recession-proof employment or not, married/single, primary/secondary wage earner, etc. and ultimately, what lets you sleep at night. Good luck. -
Testing of Ineligible Employees
CuseFan replied to ConnieStorer's topic in Defined Benefit Plans, Including Cash Balance
I'm not a user of the software so I can't opine on its coding to produce proper results, but the simple math is that you have 12 non-excludable employees and 4 who benefit in the cash balance plan, for a participation rate of 33 1/3% which as you note fails minimum participation. It could be that there were 10 non-excludable employees at the start, so 401(a)(26) passed, but then wasn't looked at again, or the intent was to amend under 11(g) to bring in an NHCE or two as needed, or maybe there is already a failsafe provision already in the plan? -
It's an actual ROR on plan assets ICR, and the plan had a loss for the year, and to get a normal accrual rate we project using the plan's current ICR (or using zero if negative). Using accrued to date, instead of projecting current credit to NRA at 0% we project the account balance, so that's only going to help if there was a history of substantial interest credits in prior years. Unfortunately, that is not the case. Thanks
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profit sharing contribution but no profits
CuseFan replied to Santo Gold's topic in Retirement Plans in General
Exactly. We think of PS as a qualified retirement plan contribution, but the context of the contract may solely refer to the distribution of profit sharing, i.e., essentially bonuses. -
Simple, the vesting clock starts ticking on the later of the plan's effective date or the employee's date of hire.
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If you were able to pay the bill, then it can be questionable whether you actually have a hardship. If you are asking if you need to make a partial payment, but not be able to make full payment in order to qualify for hardship, I think the answer is "no" that wouldn't make sense.
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Also, is this income subject to SECA taxes? If not, it's not earned income regardless and not "pensionable".
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Thanks Tom, all I could think about while reading this was the movie Scanners, and the Big Bang Theory episode where Sheldon tries to explode Leonard's head.
