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Super fascninating question - Owners Child is an LTPT
Paul I replied to austin3515's topic in 401(k) Plans
The eligibility service rules in the plan can be a potential trap for the unwary. A lot of plans with an hours requirement do not select an hours equivalency so the plan should use actual hours. If the plan does specify an hours equivalency, then the choice of the equivalency can, as @Peter Gulia notes, significantly accelerate a participant being credited with 1000 hours. Elapsed time rules carry their own risk. Effectively, the plan does not look at consecutive plan years with at least 500 hours under the proposed LTPT rules: "this proposed regulation does not include an amendment to the elapsed time rules under § 1.410(a)–7. Therefore, a plan may not require an employee, including an employee who is classified as a part-time employee, to complete more than a 1-year period of service under the elapsed time method in order to be eligible to participate in a qualified CODA." In a recent conference, a comment was made by the IRS that there was no guidance anywhere that would provide an equivalent number of hours associated with a period of service under the elapsed time method. The attendees were quick to point to IRS's own 1.410(b)-6(f): "(1) In general. An employee may be treated as an excludable employee for a plan year with respect to a particular plan if - (v) The employee terminates employment during the plan year with no more than 500 hours of service, and the employee is not an employee as of the last day of the plan year (for purposes of this paragraph (f)(1)(v), a plan that uses the elapsed time method of determining years of service may use either 91 consecutive calendar days or 3 consecutive calendar months instead of 500 hours of service, provided it uses the same convention for all employees during a plan year)" It will be interesting to see if this equivalency makes its way into final LTPT regulations. -
The concept of specifying the order in which forfeitures is okay but be careful about where you put the "re-allocate to participants" choice. I recommend putting it at the bottom of the list. Re-allocating forfeitures is treated the same as if the employer made an employer contribution which can impact things like NEC coverage, gateways, top heavy contributions, creation of a lot of small balance accounts and more. Include items like restoration of forfeitures for rehires, corrective actions including QNECs, and other similar situations where an employer puts money into the plan. It also makes sense to prioritize match contributions over NEC contributions.
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I suggest the correct way to look at it is a Schedule R is required whenever a plan must report information on any line on the form. The Schedule R has an array of topics that apply to specific types of plans or to specific circumstances. It is possible for a Form 5500 not to be required to attach a Schedule R, but this has become unlikely. The requirement to report the opinion letter number for a pre-approved plan will by itself cause the vast majority of plans to have to attach a Schedule R.
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Is the purpose of these resolutions solely to document a plan sponsor's choices for LTPT employees receiving other contribution types in addition to 401(k) deferrals? Or, is the purpose to have a resolution adopting an interim plan amendment? Either way, I think it is a bad idea for a plan to say LTPTs get the other contribution types by default unless the sponsor elects otherwise. If the plan sponsor felt before SECURE some part-time employess should get the other contributions, why did they exclude them before there were LTPT rules?
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Notice 2024-2 has this new term "pre-enactment qualified CODA". I don't see how a PS-only plan that does not yet have a qualified CODA could be considered a pre-enactment qualified CODA. Here is the Q&A from Notice 2024-2: Q. A-1: When is a qualified CODA established for purposes of determining whether the qualified CODA is excepted under section 414A(c)(2)(A)(i) of the Code from the requirements related to automatic enrollment (that is, whether the qualified CODA is a pre-enactment qualified CODA)? A. A-1: For purposes of section 414A(c)(2)(A)(i), a qualified CODA is established on the date plan terms providing for the CODA are adopted initially. This is the case even if the plan terms providing for the CODA are effective after the adoption date. For example, if an employer adopted a plan that included a qualified CODA on October 3, 2022, with an effective date of January 1, 2023, then the qualified CODA would have been established on October 3, 2022 (that is, before December 29, 2022), even though the qualified CODA was not effective until after December 29, 2022.
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If there was only one local taxing authority that would require withholding of local taxes on retirement income, my guess is it would be New York City. They do tax retirement income above a certain threshold ($20,000?) and they do expect the taxpayer to make estimated tax payments. Pennsylvania is another state that allows municipalities, boroughs, and townships (generically termed "political subdivisions) to assess earned income taxes (EIT) and local services taxes (LST). Taxes are calculated based on place of residence AND work place. Withholding is mandatory, but fortunately only wages are included in calculating the EIT. The LSTs commonly are per capita amounts. The biggest challenge for the entire system is getting the tax withholding credited to the correct taxing authority. I agree that recordkeepers do not calculate local taxes based on a local tax formula (there probably is an exception), but some recordkeepers alert a participant that a taxable distribution may be subject to state and local taxes and the participant may want to increase the withholding from their distribution. While not directly on point with local taxes, Vanguard has a detailed summary of state tax withholding rules (attached). Vanguard - Applicable state tax withholding for retirement plan distributions.pdf
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401k Plan Termination - post termination date contributions?
Paul I replied to MD-Benefits Guy's topic in 401(k) Plans
It sounds like this is a stock acquisition and the plan will terminate after closing. The one big thing happens under these circumstances that messes things up is when employees of the seller who do not have a distributable event from the seller's plan and who continue to be employed by the buyer are allowed to take a distribution from the seller's plan when it terminates. Here's hoping 401(k) closures is something the legal team does have the knowledge and experience to do. -
We do a lot of work in both worlds and the administration of beneficiary designations is too often an afterthought during a transition in either world. There are valid reasons why it is very important to include a discussion of beneficiary designations during any transition. Here are some of the "whys": Beneficiary designations are primary documents which often require multiple wet signatures including one each for the participant, the spouse and a notary public. The original document often is the basis for determining death benefits which requires keeping and tracking paper documents or maintaining a document management system that captures sufficient data to document the designations validity. Larger companies are more likely to have an in-house document management system where they track beneficiary designations along with elections needed across a wide variety of other HR applications. Smaller companies are more likely to keep paper forms with a physical file folder for each employee. In these cases, "[beneficiary designations] are maintained by the employer." Some recordkeepers will collect and retain beneficiary designations and they may charge a separate fee for this service. Others will collect beneficiary designations but then transmit them to the employer to maintain. The details of the scope of service most likely are found in the details of the recordkeepers service agreement. Plan documents and Summary Plan Descriptions include language that specify how a participant must make a beneficiary election to be valid. If so, and a participant does not follow the specified procedure, then the beneficiary designation can be declared invalid. It is important that beneficiary designation procedures used within the company or contracted for with recordkeeper are consistent with the plan documentation. Each plan a recordkeeper services may have its own definition of who is the beneficiary, and each definition can present its own data tracking and administration challenges. This thread about default beneficiaries is an example. Other common complexities arise when the plan defines a spouse other than the person who is married to the participant at the time of the participant's death (for example, the plan uses the one-year rule). Other complexities arise if the beneficiary designation remains in effect after a divorce or a QDRO. Beneficiary designations that include designating primary and contingent beneficiaries add more complexity, and plan provisions that specify the division of a death benefit per stirpes versus per capita can make it even more complicated. (Be honest folks, how many of us can explain the difference between per stirpes and per capita without looking it up.) Bottom line, managing beneficiary designations is important, can be complicated, should have clearly documented procedures and should have clearly assigned operational responsibilities between the company and its service providers - no matter what the size of the plan. We all should not wait until a participant dies to discuss who does what.
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401k Plan Termination - post termination date contributions?
Paul I replied to MD-Benefits Guy's topic in 401(k) Plans
@MD-Benefits Guy you are correct to ask questions because the when and how the acquisition is done can have a significant impact on your current plan's participants. First and foremost, pay attention to @david rigby's comment about whether the buyer will acquire all of the stock of your company (the seller) or the buyer will acquire all of the assets of your company (the seller). If this is a stock transaction, then upon closing the buyer in control of the plan. If this is an asset transaction, then upon closing the buyer is not in control of the plan and the seller continues to exist after closing and the seller can decide the fate of the plan. You do not say if the buyer has an existing 401(k) plan or, if not, intends to adopt a 401(k) plan. If yes, there are rules about whether the buyer's 401(k) plan is considered a successor plan to a seller's plan that is terminated after closing, and these rules can be particularly onerous after a stock transaction. The more common scenario for handling an acquired seller's plan is for the seller's plan to be merged into the buyer's plan. A plan merger is different from a plan termination. If the buyer expects to have an existing 401(k) plan operating alongside the seller's plan, each plan's document should be carefully reviewed to address potential unintended consequences. Each plan's provisions regarding eligibility, excludable employees, plan compensation, contributions (including answering your question about true-ups), vesting, and the safe harbor features should state clearly what applies to all or each subgroup of employees. This review definitely should be done before closing a stock transaction. Another note to keep in mind is that plans are terminated by adopting an amendment to terminate the plan. In addition to setting the termination date and the plan year end date, the termination amendment can be used to address the questions you raised in your original post. Mergers and acquisitions, handled properly, can go smoothly with few surprises. Handled improperly, they can lead to bad feelings and costly compliance issues. Hopefully, both the buyer and seller in this transaction have experience with what needs to be done with existing plans of both the buyer and seller. -
Often this is true, but not all plans allow immediate termination distributions. Plans can have provisions that delay the timing of when a termination distribution is payable, and a terminated participant has to wait until then. A classic example is when a plan has only annual valuations (yes, these still exist), and the terminated participant must wait until the valuation is completed following their termination date. In this case, the participant may have to wait a year before they can receive their distribution, and the participant would not be able to take a hardship distribution. The point which often is lost on the participant is, yes, they are eligible take a termination distribution, but the plan controls the timing of when the payment is made.
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The pre-approved basic plan document we use (and is used by a very large number of institutional providers) defines a hardship distribution as "an in-service distribution upon the occurrence of a Hardship event". The selection of hardship distributions in the adoption agreement is under the section titled " AVAILABILITY OF IN-SERVICE DISTRIBUTIONS". For plans that use this document, hardships are not available to terminated employees. Some of the choices for distributions available to terminated employees include timing that could extend the timing of the availability of the termination distribution. For example, the plan could require a participant to incur a set number of breaks in service, or to have to wait until the next annual valuation date. The plan also allows a choice to pay at Normal Retirement Age, death or disability. As oft-repeated, read the plan document.
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Adding to the chaos, DC Cycle 4 technically has started already but the IRS is not yet open for business to receive submissions. The IRS expected to open the submission window from Feb. 1, 2024, through Jan. 31, 2025, but I have not seen an announcement. If the window is open soon, we likely will be doing Cycle 4 amendments for everyone with the restatement period running from the latter part of 2026 into 2028. The December 31, 2026 hits right around the beginning of that restatement period. The LRMs were updated this January and are available here https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/dc-lrm0124.pdf if anyone has time to spare to read through 149 pages. If the submission window does open soon, imagine how much guidance has yet to be issued that will not be in the LRMs included in the Cycle 4 documents.
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Managing plan amendments and operating plans in accordance with the terms of the plan document has become unwieldy. To rip off a quote from the Pirates of the Caribbean: "The pirate code is more like guidelines than actual rules". We are in a era where effective dates of legislation has compressed the time frame for implementation that the Agencies have insufficient time to follow an orderly procedure for issuing regulations. With effective dates of provisions that are earlier than official guidance is available, plan providers are faced with implementation without any official guidance. A plan sponsor that wishes to take advantage of provisions in new legislation can do so by starting to administer the plan based on a reasonable interpretation of the new provision at any time after the effective date of the provision. If official guidance is issued subsequent to the start of the use of the new provision, the plan must adapt its administration to conform with that guidance. These steps, taken together, are labeled as the plan is being administered in good faith. The plan document does not have to be amended to reflect any of this until much later. Some questions that arise at this point are: What is the appropriate communication of the new provisions to participants (the SPD and SMM are based on the official plan document)? Who has to receive the communications of the new provisions (is all participants and beneficiaries, affected participants and beneficiaries,...?) Can the plan sponsor change the mind and modify the administration of a new provision or even rescind it if, for example, official guidance requires onerous administrative procedures than are palatable to the plan sponsor (assuming the legislation is silent on the ability to rescind using the provision)? At a higher technical level, is the plan violating the requirement that it must follow the terms of the plan document if the plan document has not yet been amended to contain the new provisions (granted this is a stretch, but possibly, could an unenrolled participant argue the plan failed to provide required disclosures)? Moving on, the vast majority of plans use pre-approved documents. Pre-approved plan documents are authored by Mass Submitters, and Pre-approved Plan Providers offer the documents to Plan Sponsors. Mass Submitters provide periodic updates to their plan documents and author interim plan amendments needed for plans that are terminating. Without official guidance available, it is common for Mass Submitters to provide Pre-approved Plan Providers with "good faith" amendments (literally using quotation marks) to indicate that these amendment are more like guidelines than actual rules. These "good faith" amendments come with a caveat that they have not been blessed with a formal review by the IRS and are made available for Pre-approved Plan Providers to make a good faith effort to keep plan documentation somewhat formal. This brings up some other questions for a Plan Sponsor to consider when presented with an interim amendment: Am I adopting this interim to take advantage of new provisions available as a result of recent legislation? Is the decision to adopt a new provision reversible and am I ready to make that commitment (basically, am I adopting a protected benefit)? Will integrate the communication of the new provision into the existing required plan disclosures? Are my HR, payroll and recordkeeping systems ready and available to support my decision? We also must be aware that change fatigue (resistance or passive resignation to organizational changes) plays a part in how a Plan Sponsor will react to a recordkeeper presenting an interim amendment with a recommendation to sign it now. I am sure there is much more to this discussion, and many other points to consider.
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That's not cash, is it!
Paul I replied to Bri's topic in Defined Benefit Plans, Including Cash Balance
We cannot overlook the DOL. Per the EOB: "Contribution of property is generally a prohibited transaction. A contribution of property (rather than cash) to satisfy a funding obligation is treated as a sale of property to the plan and is a prohibited transaction. See Commissioner v. Keystone Consolidated Industries, Inc., 113 S. Ct. 2006 (1993). The DOL has provided guidance on the Keystone decision in Interpretive Bulletin 94-3, DOL Reg. §2509.94-3. According to the DOL, all in-kind contributions to a defined benefit plan are prohibited transactions, even if the value of the property exceeds the minimum funding obligation, because the contribution would result in a credit against funding obligations which might arise in the future. See DOL Reg. §2509.94-3(b)." The interpretive bulletin found here https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-29/subtitle-B/chapter-XXV/subchapter-A/part-2509/section-2509.94-3#p-2509.94-3 provides more details on the DOL's viewpoint. -
There are implications when managing cybersecurity and PII meets legacy retirement software. HR, payroll and retirement systems all need to have a unique identifier for each person in their system. It was a matter of convenience that SSNs could fill that roll but we now live in a world where knowing a person's SSN makes them vulnerable to identify theft. In the retirement world, SSNs are required only when we need to report amounts leaving a plan (e.g., 1099R, annuity purchase, ...) or reporting terminated vested individuals on Form 8955-SSA. The challenge for getting HR, payroll and retirement to work optimally is to share the same unique identifier for each person across all systems. When we work with a client with a policy that SSNs cannot be used a unique identifies, then we ask for the client preferably to provide the identifier that they use within their HR or payroll systems. We have had instances where a client will not share this information which requires us to build our own unique identifier for each person that works within the constraints of the field length for the person's record key within our system. It helps that the record key is treated as an alphanumeric field versus a numeric-only field. When we do need to capture an SSN, is it stored in an available "other" field. We maintain a table of record keys and SSNs that allow to cross-reference identifiers when needed. We also run edits to confirm that all record keys are unique. From what I have seen is many of the large institutional recordkeeping systems use a similar approach where the systems builds its own unique identifier for each person in a plan. This also allows them to be able to report to a participant if that participant has an account in another plan that is recordkept on the system. (This happens relatively often in major metropolitan areas.) My suggestion is to engage the client in a conversation about the need for a unique identifier to track non-financial information like service dates, birth dates, compensation and hours of service to be able to perform compliance testing required for operate the plan. Make them aware of what is at stake (ultimately plan qualification, but more likely avoidance of costly corrections) and ask them to work with you to gather the necessary data for all employees. Good luck!
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@Dougsbpc perchance, is the participant catch-up eligible (and does the plan allow catch-up contributions)? Grasping at straws, I ask because catch-up contributions have a universal availability requirement. Employees must have the effective opportunity to make the same dollar amount of catch-up contributions 1.414(v)-1(e)(1)(i), and the employer can only restrict the amount of compensation considered in calculating the catch-up contributions to the employee's compensation available after withholding for income and withholding taxes (where a limit of 75% of compensation is deemed to satisfy this requirement). If the participant is catch-up eligible, then the deferrals above the 40% limit (a plan limit) up to the catch-up dollar limit could be considered catch-up contributions. That would leave a chunk of cash in the participant's account. The catch-up amount would excluded in calculating the participant's ADP as would any excess that may be refunded.
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CBZeller, I stand corrected, withdrew my comment, and thank you.
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SECURE 2.0 60-63 CAtch-ups - Optional or Mandatory?
Paul I replied to austin3515's topic in 401(k) Plans
As a further clarification to CBZeller's note that participants must have the same effective opportunity to make catch-up contributions, IRS 414(v)(2) says: This language allows for a plan to limit catch-up contributions to an amount that is lower than the catch-up limit. The Joint Committee on Taxatation General Explanation of section 109 of SECURE 2.0 says in part: This reinforces the idea that the SECURE 2.0 increased limits are themselves optional. -
Adopting ESOP as of 12/31/23
Paul I replied to RetirementPlanTPA's topic in Employee Stock Ownership Plans (ESOPs)
I don't see how the owner can say an ESOP bought his stock on 12/31/2023 if the ESOP did not exist at that time, particularly where the company is operating on a cash basis. -
The PE ceasing participation in the plan does not by itself create a distributable event. The spinoff concept may work but the buyer and seller need to agree on all of the details about how the spinoff plan is handled. A misstep in timing, pre- and post-transaction plan amendments, employment status of the PE participants after closing, and host of other details can lead to an undesirable outcome. For example, distributions from the seller's plan could be disqualified and become taxable, or the coverage transition period could terminate early. As a starting point, the buyer and seller should articulate their vision and expectations for the plan after closing.
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I agree with everyone else, their best path forward is a per payroll match. If this happened in 2023 (and a calendar year plan), the client has to live with the plan provisions in effect in 2023. If they want to try implement something in 2024, they should make sure no one loses a benefit that before the plan is amended. If they want an annual true-up, or if the have a true-up by a plan default because they are funding less frequently than every payroll, the math very likely will wash out any perceived value to ignoring the comp. If they don't go with a per payroll match and somehow did implement what they are asking for, then this likely will create variances in match rates. There likely are more "gotchas" to this concept. I can only imagine the client's reaction when they are faced with correcting a failure to implement or missed deferral opportunity. Do you even dare telling this client how much more they will have to pay you to try to administer their idea?
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The instructions to the Form 5500 in all 3 places where the question is asked are: "The Opinion Letter serial number is a unique combination of a capital letter and a series of six numbers assigned to each Opinion Letter." There is no reference to an ending letter, and no EFAST2 edits on the field although software providers may add their own edits.
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@Bill Presson is correct that addressing the transition for sending payrolls to the new recordkeeper is among the very first topics to discuss among the old recordkeeper, new recordkeeper and payroll, and having a work plan agreed to by all parties before the blackout notices go out can eliminate a lot of anxiety. It is worth noting up front that, while not ideal, by default the fallback if the work plan does not work out is having to deal with some late payroll deposits. Having a work plan demonstrates a good-faith effort was made and if stuff happens to derail the work plan, everyone needs to focus on the big picture of completing the transition as accurately and as timely as possible. So what should be in the work plan? At a very high level: The old recordkeeper will need some time to prepare the participant demographic and plan accounting conversion records. The records for this process will be available after the old recordkeeper completes the processing the last payroll for which they are responsible for investing. The new recordkeeper will need some time to have in place sufficient information to accept payroll records and process any activities associated with payroll records. This may include calculating a match or posting principal and interest amounts for loan repayments. Minimally, the new recordkeeper needs an employee identifier (ID or SSN), and name, but almost certainly will gather additional information. The new recordkeeper also will need to have investment elections in place. This will involve a detailed discussion of setting up the investment menu and working out process of mapping old fund elections to new fund elections, or completing an investment re-enrollment (with a default fund). A plan to address dividend and interest received during the blackout also should be discussed. Payroll will need to make any adjustments to synchronize the payroll data interface with the specifications needed by the new recordkeeper. All processes and file formats should be fully tested before starting kicking off the conversion. The client needs to be prepared to fill in potential gaps in the records for circumstances such as when a participant terminates employment during the conversion. Everyone should be prepared to provide a complete, 100% to the penny reconciliation of all funds leaving the old recordkeeper, funds received by the new recordkeeper and any payrolls processed during the blackout period. The fastest conversion we have done for a plan with more than 100 participants - measured from the old recordkeeper generating data files to the new recordkeeper going live - was 2 hours. More realistically, the typical conversion takes 3 to 7 business days. The overall conversion planning and execution takes 10-12 weeks. Done right, this is a lot of work and the client should be prepared to pay for it. Done right, participants will start out with a feeling of confidence in the plan and the new recordkeeper.
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You will need a lot more information about the old company, the new company, the plan sponsored by the old company, the disposition of that plan after the dissolution of the old company, the disposition of that plan after the formation of the new company, a plan sponsored by the new company, the employees of the old company that become employees of the new company, and more. This is a complex situation the needs a careful review by legal counsel with expertise in plans involved in business transitions. There are rules and guidance spread throughout various IRC sections related to business transactions that can be complex and can have a bearing on the analysis. For example 1.415(f)-1(c)(2) points to a determination of a predecessor employer at an employee-by-employee level: "Where plan is not maintained by successor. With respect to an employer of a participant, a former entity that antedates the employer is a predecessor employer with respect to the participant if, under the facts and circumstances, the employer constitutes a continuation of all or a portion of the trade or business of the former entity. This will occur, for example, where formation of the employer constitutes a mere formal or technical change in the employment relationship and continuity otherwise exists in the substance and administration of the business operations of the former entity and the employer." This example is not definitive but does illustrate the type of issues that, depending on the facts and circumstances of reforming the business, could impact a plan. A change in an EIN of a plan sponsor happens routinely in business transactions and also is not definitive. Ultimately, risk of mishandling a plan or plans could rise to the level of disqualification of the old plan or a new plan, the cost of which would make seeking competent legal counsel a bargain.
