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Unterminating DB - PBGC covered
Paul I replied to Jakyasar's topic in Defined Benefit Plans, Including Cash Balance
Here literally is the sanitized notice that was sent out to everyone who received the NOIT. The language was adapted from the letter received from the PBGC. We added the second paragraph because individuals had made elections for their form of payment to be made as a result of the plan termination. Notice of Withdrawal of the Plan Termination of the Retirement Plan The Corporation has withdrawn the plan termination of the Retirement Plan. The Plan is an on-going plan. The Plan did not terminate as of the proposed termination date stated in the Notice of Intent to Terminate that was distributed when the process began. You will be notified in advance of any further effort to terminate the Plan. Under 29 CFR section 4041.28(b), the plan administrator may not make any distributions of assets unless a participant has a distributable event such as retirement, death, disability or other separation from employment, and is eligible to commence benefit payments. -
Unterminating DB - PBGC covered
Paul I replied to Jakyasar's topic in Defined Benefit Plans, Including Cash Balance
I just had a plan that went through the entire plan termination process with the PBGC up to the point where annuities were purchased for all terminated participants and the plan was negotiating the purchase of annuities for the remaining actives. All filings were made timely. A week before the final PBGC filing was due, the company decided that it could not afford the contribution needed to complete the annuity purchases. The PBGC said as long as no distributions were made that relied on the termination as the distributable event and everyone who was sent an NOIT was given a notice was called off, the PBGC would acknowledge the withdrawal of the termination and the plan is back to business as usual. The plan was frozen so everyone already was fully vested, and we recommended an amendment to withdraw the termination to complete the documentation. Frankly, it was surprisingly simple. -
Rollover or Not
Paul I replied to thepensionmaven's topic in Distributions and Loans, Other than QDROs
Here is an article going back in time regarding Qualified Plan Distribution Annuities. I highlighted some items related to this discussion (starting on page 10). As I understand it, a plan can allow the participant can ask the plan to purchase a QPDA and have that QPDA distributed to the participant when the participant's benefits become payable from the plan. The plan document is not required to have specific language allowing for the distribution of a QPDA and can be available as long as the document allows for a lump sum distribution that is not limited to a cash distribution. The QPDA is distributed to the participant as an in-kind distribution. This distribution is not a rollover and is not reported on a 1099-R but rather is a "payment of the balance to the credit of the employee for purposes of 402(c)." The QPDA is subject to qualified plan rules such as direct rollovers, qualified plan RMD rules, 20% default withholding and more. QPDAs have been around a long time, and they recently received some recognition in the SECURE Act Portability of Lifetime Income Options (Section 109). I must admit I have had no experience with QPDAs. It's been said and hopefully is true that learning and growing as we age increases our lifespans. NYU-BenefitsReview.pdf -
Generally, the plan can allow the participant to defer the coming year's deferred comp to a point in time defined by a specific time period or definitely determinable event. The election is made before the year starts and the distribution occurs at a definitely determinable point in time. For example, a younger individual with a child that is now 8 years old may elect to take distribution in 10 years - roughly around the age the child may go to college. The election can be tied to the payment being made in 10 years - that is determinable. The election cannot be tied to when the child goes to college because that is not determinable. An older individual in the same plan could elect to have the amount payable at age 65. The plan can allow a participant to make different elections for different years. Allowing that option requires meticulous administration. Vesting will have to occur with respect to this deferred amount on or before the amount can be paid, and the amount will be taxable when it vests without a substantial risk of forfeiture. Some plans use class-year vesting so there is always an amount at risk of forfeiture. As CuseFan noted, timing of taxation and distribution can occur at different points in time.
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HCE, NHCE, family member... all should not be an issue if the individual is excluded from participating by name as long as the plan passes coverage. If the plan uses rate group testing, then the individual will be in the test as non-excludable, and also the exclusion cannot be used to pass the reasonable classification part of the average benefits test. Short version, know where the mines are buried so they don't blow up compliance.
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We know the plan must follow its terms. We know that a plan fiduciary's best practice is to document, document, document what, when and why anything that is done in the management and administration of the plan. We know that documentation of transactions and participants' elections that are supported by contemporaneous financial statements and signed documents and administrative forms have the most credibility with the IRS and DOL. Let's hope that the plan fiduciaries - including the trustees - who receive advice that the plan can be operated based on unsupported bookkeeping entries know better. They are the ones who will be held accountable.
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You may find this case interesting reading - https://casetext.com/pdf-email?slug=brooks-v-metrica-inc and any of the 20 citing cases. It is somewhat aged, but it includes references to other cases that helped set precedents. Most TPAs and plan sponsors are not likely see the assessment of the penalties since they occur at the direction of the court primarily as part of litigation associated with an individual participant's claim. It is worth noting in the above case that the 30-day clock started ticking when the participant made an oral request for the SPD. The penalties are real and exist because there are plans that are unresponsive to participant requests. I imagine most attorneys who handle claims cases are aware of the penalty and let their clients know about it whether or not the penalty amount is numeric, is spelled out, or is referred to generically as an amount in the SPD.
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You likely have to wait until you receive the IRS acknowledgement and results of your transmission. Along with that acknowledgement will be instructions: "To review the results of your file, log back into the FIRE system at HTTPS://FIRE.IRS.GOV, and at the Main Menu select Check File Status. You must select a file status using the drop down menu to display file results. If you select an incorrect status, you may not get any results. If your File Status indicates 'BAD', select the filename to review error messages. Correct the errors and timely resubmit the file as a 'REPLACEMENT'. Do not send as an original or correction file. If your File Status indicates 'GOOD' and you are satisfied with the Count of Payees, you are finished with this file. The file will automatically be released after 10 calendar days unless you contact us within this timeframe to stop the processing." I expect if the File Status is BAD, option to upload a Replacement File will be unlocked. I expect if the File Status is GOOD, the Replacement File option will not be unlocked and you will have 10 days to contact the IRS to stop the processing. In that case, before you dial the IRS, go to the bathroom whether you need to or not, grab your favorite beverage and snacks, and settle in for the duration.
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Peter, interesting question because there are two penalties under the heading of failure to provide an SPD upon request. Your question relates to when a participant requests an SPD. The DOL sets the amount in §2575.502c-1 - Adjusted civil penalty under section 502(c)(1) at $110 per day. Per the EOB, that number is not indexed and has been constant for while. Common literature references this as a DOL penalty (it is set by the DOL) but you correctly note it is the court that can direct the payment of this amount to the participant. I believe that the penalty is based on days exceeding 30 days of receipt of the participants, but I don't have a handy source to confirm. The DOL has its own penalty if the DOL requests the SPD and the plan does not provide it to the DOL. This is under §2575.2(e) and is indexed. The current amount is $184 per day, not to exceed $1,846 per request (as confirmed in the link above from C.B. Zeller to the 2023 adjustments).
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Pass through dividends on company stock held in 401(k) plan
Paul I replied to Tegernsee's topic in 401(k) Plans
If there is no ESOP, then very likely there are no dividends available to pass through to participants. All of the references to 404(k) deal with ESOP shares. I asked about KSOPs because some are designed to allow participants to have the pass through of dividends from the ESOP portion's dividends redirected into the 401(k) part of the plan. They even take this one step further by allowing the dividend pass through to offset deferrals taken from payroll, but the dividends themselves are not deferrals. My understanding is dividends on employer securities in non-ESOP accounts are not available for pass through to participants. I double checked some ESOP, KSOP and 401(k) documents as well as the regulations and do not see anywhere that dividends on non-ESOP accounts are available for pass through. Hopefully some of our BenefitsLink ESOP colleagues or perhaps whoever drafted the plan you are working with can let us know any explicit rules on this topic. -
Foreign government entity as sponsor?
Paul I replied to stainedglass80's topic in Retirement Plans in General
The question asked about a "foreign government entity". It seems clear that a "foreign entity" (e.g., corporation, business, commercial activity, individual...) can sponsor a plan. It seems probable that a "foreign government" can sponsor a plan where the sponsoring entity is an organization operating as part of the foreign government (e.g., embassy and consulate staff, trade representatives...) There are discussions that indicate both qualified plans and non-qualified plans (403(b), 401(a), 457, 409A...) may be available. The common denominator is individuals who can benefit from these arrangements must have income that is taxable in the US. If the question ultimately is about a plan for US-based employees with income taxable in the US, then it seems likely they can be covered under a plan. Looking for information on this topic felt like trying to see if Sasquatch, Big Foot or a Yeti can participate in a plan. Hopefully, one of BenefitsLink colleagues with the very special expertise can enlighten us all. -
For starters, I suggest taking a look at General Instructions for Forms W-2 and W-3 (2023) page 14. It gets complicated depending upon the situation and the amounts involved. There are some breaks available if the amounts are small or if you are a small business. Also, do not overlook the ripple effects on State and Local reporting. The worst thing is to ignore the issue. Personally, I would seek legal advice with knowledge of the applicable taxing authorities. If there are compensation-based benefit plans including retirement, and health and welfare, have them look at the implications on under-reported income on those plans as well.
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Pass through dividends on company stock held in 401(k) plan
Paul I replied to Tegernsee's topic in 401(k) Plans
Tegernsee, is the plan a standalone 401(k), a KSOP (combined 401(k) and ESOP), or are there two plans (a standalone 401(k) and a standalone ESOP)? The answer to your question about the use of dividends on employer securities likely depends part on the type of plan that holds the employer securities. There are differences in the rules applicable to employer securities held in an ESOP versus employer securities held in a 401(k). -
The artifice for convenience needs to be in sync with the reporting. Filing a 5500 with the final return box checked and with a balance on the Schedule H or I is an edit check that can trigger an inquiry. We have seen the merger agreements with the date and time of the plan merger set specifically at 11:59pm on 12/31. Some agreements take extra care to note explicitly that the ownership of the trust assets for the plan merging in also is effective as of that time and date. In real-world trust reporting, the trust statements very likely will show assets as of COB 12/31 for the plan being merged. If the trustee is also associated with the recordkeeper that is preparing the 5500, the draft 5500 likely will show those assets as the ending balance and will not have the final return box checked. The trust reporting will not show a zero balance until the assets leave the account. So, yes, easier said than done and a balancing act. We had to involve an agent's supervisor to overrule an agent's refusal to accept that the merger was consummated as of the effective date of the merger even though there was a trust report that showed a balance in the name of the merging plan. All too often merger agreements are done with considering the implications on the plan, and the client's benefits staff and the plan's service provider only learn about the merger until after it is too late to provide input. For smaller plans, it is far easier and less time consuming to go with the flow and file a 5500 that covers the days into the next plan year when the trust reporting in the name of the merging plan will show a zero balance.
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Form W-4R for distributions under $200
Paul I replied to Lauren3333's topic in Distributions and Loans, Other than QDROs
The answer will depend in part on the plan document. I have seen documents where the Adoption Agreement has an election to cash out less than $200 vested account balances immediately. I also have seen documents where the definition of an eligible rollover distribution in the paired Basic Plan Document explicitly excluded these distributions. Is the notice language that no response to the request for the distribution form will result in a rollover to an IRA based on the plan document, a procedure implemented by the Plan Administrator, or the IRA provider service agreement? If the document says the under $200 distributions are not eligible for rollover, then there could be a conflict between the procedure and the plan document (and the document wins every time.) -
We can talk about what the plan woulda, coulda, shoulda have said, but in the end the plan has to follow the terms of the plan document. The FT William Adoption Agreement sets the Valuation Date in Section H5 as the last day of the year, quarter, or month, as daily, or as a fill in the blank. The BPD references the AA and adds the Plan Administrator can call for a special valuation for the assets in case of a distribution, asset transfer or division of assets from the plan that are not daily-valued to protect the plan. The BPD does not have an explicit formula for determining the amount available for an in-service withdrawal and leaves it up to the PA to adopt a procedure. Similarly, the PA can spell out ordering rules. That being said, from the days before daily valuations became industry standard, termination distributions and interfund transfer typically are based on the valuation following the date of payment or the effective date of the transfer request. In cases where there is an immediate need for a payment (hardships or often death payments), typically the amount is based on the prior Valuation Date less any interim payments or expenses, plus any contributions. In terms of ordering, if the plan also has daily-valued assets, either amounts were based pro-rata across all funds, or the daily funds were used first before tapping the pooled accounts. Check the document for the frequency of the valuation. If there are pooled accounts, consider asking if the pooled accounts have a daily value available - many do. If assets are held in a mix of daily accounts and periodically valued pooled accounts, then the adoption agreement should say so. The PA should decide on the procedure for allocating income in the pooled account, and should decide on how amounts will be determined for each plan event requiring a movement of assets in or out of the pooled account. Participants should be given a copy of these procedures. And, I believe that Bird is correct that the feature of an in-service withdrawals is a protected benefit and cannot be taken away from individuals who have met the eligibility to take such withdrawals from the plan (e.g., like age 59 1/2, 5 years of service for NEC...)
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The final 5500 must show an ending balance with zero assets. Completing the 5500 for 2022 would seem to be trivial unless an audit is required. Check the filing deadline. The date the assets go to zero ends the plan year.
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It sounds like the horse is out of the barn. When was this addition to the appendix made to the document? If it was executed after 12/31/2022, it will not be applicable to 2022 (see the TAM). Read the VS document, basic plan document and the IRS approval letter very carefully. They all limit the types of modifications that can be made in "Describe" entries and Appendixes to core plan provisions like eligibility, vesting and allocation conditions. Crossing the line can rescind reliance on the IRS approval letter. You may want to talk to the document provider to confirm your understanding after reading everything. I would be surprised if the provider says this provision is permissible in their document. The fact that they adopted a provision like this without asking you about it in advance makes me feel this will be a toxic client for you - do stuff without telling you, wanting you to fix it when it is screwed up, and probably not wanting to pay for all of the extra effort. Hope not. Good luck.
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Take a look at IRS Technical Advice Memorandum 9735001 where the analysis notes "the accrued benefit includes amounts to which the participant is entitled under the terms of the plan, even though the bookkeeping process of crediting those amounts to the participant's account has not actually occurred". Essentially, you cannot take away a benefit after it was accrued under the plan. It also considers whether contribution is discretionary. Interestingly, the 415 regulations 1.415(c)-1(b)(6)(i)(A) notes that "However, if the allocation of an annual addition is dependent upon the satisfaction of a condition (such as continued employment or the occurrence of an event) that has not been satisfied by the date as of which the annual addition is allocated under the terms of the plan, then the annual addition is considered allocated for purposes of this paragraph (b) as of the date the condition is satisfied" which acknowledges that there can be allocation conditions like continued employment up to the date the contribution is allocated. If so, then the annual addition counts in the year the allocation is made. (I believe this provision is intended to address contributions that are made very late or made under certain correction methods.) If there is a path forward for this client, it would be to not lock in the benefit accrual as of the end of the plan year. Lou is right that simply having the 1000 hour/last day allocation condition would not accomplish this. You may be able to add the continued employment requirement. The benefit would become an annual addition in the year it is funded to the plan. (This likely shifts the year of deduction.) In other words, this year's calculation of an accrued benefit is based on last year's hours, compensation, last day of employment and this year's active status on the funding date. The plan likely will have to test for non-discrimination since the allocation formula would not be among the safe harbors. The non-discrimination test would be done for the year in which the contribution is made as opposed to the prior year information used to calculate the benefit amount. Any required contributions such as top heavy, gateways, and similar contributions that have a mandated contributions would still have to be made. What is the client's motivation? Do they feel giving a contribution to a terminated employee is rewarding disloyalty? This is not worth the effort just to be spiteful. Are the annoyed because a terminated participant took a distribution and closed out their account which then is re-opened to accept the new contribution? The recordkeeping industry routinely handles this situation. Something else? I'm sure there are more technicalities to trying to do this. This is one of those times when "just say no" feels like the best choice.
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elective contriubtion did not go through payroll
Paul I replied to thepensionmaven's topic in 401(k) Plans
Plan administrators are expected to operate the plan in uniformly and consistently for all participants all the time. Writing a check to the plan should not have happened and it is an operational error that should be addressed. The PA will decide how to address it and will need to be able to defend the fix. Without a prescribed explicit fix to point to in regulations, the PA should be comfortable that the they are not accommodating the participant because the participant is an HCE. It has long been a concern of the IRS that plans should not unduly favor higher paid individuals. In discussing alternative fixes to operational issues, I have asked the PAs if they would be confident explaining, while sitting at the table with an IRS or DOL agent, that their decision was reasonable and fair. -
elective contriubtion did not go through payroll
Paul I replied to thepensionmaven's topic in 401(k) Plans
Why was there a concern about getting the contribution invested by 12/31? It is not unusual for the final payroll of the year to be invested after the close of the plan year, and payroll still reports the deferrals as made during the plan year. Did payroll report the amount on the individual's W-2 as a deferral? Were payroll taxes withheld from a paycheck and submitted to the appropriate taxing authorities? The more of these items were not done, the more likely there is no argument for letting the money stay in the plan. If all of the issues associated with the making a deferral are fixed as best as possible, then consider at least writing up a complete description of the circumstances including the payroll error and what was done to fix the issue, and keep the documentation with plan records. Writing a personal check creates a clear trail that the individual had control of the funds - a key requirement for an elective deferral. Hopefully the individual is not a plan fiduciary or an HCE. That would taint the situation even more. -
That works as long as all of the HCEs are key employees and key employees are excluded from getting a top heavy minimum contribution. Your design could appeal to a plan sponsor that wants to use liberal eligibility requirements. I have seen more often a plan allowing everyone employed on the effective date to enter immediately upon adoption of the plan, and any new hires after that date are subject to age 21 and 1 YoS (1000 hours or elapsed time) with semiannual entry dates. This gives the plan some time to react to hiring new employees. Being able to adopt a SHNEC feature retroactively is also another available tool to use if there is a concern about new hires causing ADP problems.
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Is the PS contribution immediately vested? If not, taking the position this is a CODA could trigger a whole other topic of whether individuals who left employment before reaching full vesting were underpaid. There also could be issues with in-service withdrawals before age 59 1/2. If the plan has immediate vesting and no in-service withdrawals, then they can try to take the position that it operated like a CODA and everyone is in the same place they would be if the plan had all the 401(k) features in place. This would of course also mean that no one's contribution exceeded the annual deferral limits. Too bad anonymous VCPs are no longer available. Good luck!
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Form W-4R for distributions under $200
Paul I replied to Lauren3333's topic in Distributions and Loans, Other than QDROs
in Safe Harbor Explanations – Eligible Rollover Distributions IRS Notice 2020-62, the IRS published 2 sample rollover notices - one for distributions not from a designated Roth account, and the other from a designated Roth account. This was before the Form W4-R was released, although I am not aware of any update to the Notice. Both sample rollover notices include this language: For payment not from a Roth account "If your payments for the year are less than $200 (not including payments from a designated Roth account in the Plan), the Plan is not required to allow you to do a direct rollover and is not required to withhold federal income taxes. However, you may do a 60-day rollover." For payment only from a Roth account "If your payments for the year (only including payments from the designated Roth account in the Plan) are less than $200, the Plan is not required to allow you to do a direct rollover and is not required to withhold federal income taxes. However, you can do a 60-day rollover." The key phrase is "the Plan is not required to allow you do a direct rollover". Unless there has been a more recent comment from the IRS, you need to see if the plan requires a cash out of small amounts less than $200. If yes, then based on the above I would say no Form W4-R is required. If the plan is silent on the $200 cash-out or explicitly says these amounts are available for rollover, then you would treat them the same as an eligible rollover distribution. -
non deductible contribution added to 401k
Paul I replied to thepensionmaven's topic in Retirement Plans in General
In a nutshell, if you are an avid (rabid maybe) fan of maximizing Roth and have a non-PBGC combo, you can have Roth contributions up to the maximum annual additions limit in the 401(k) using the conversion of after-tax to Roth and the new SECURE 2.0 provision (if the plan allows) conversion of the NEC to Roth.
