imchipbrown Posted August 7, 2001 Posted August 7, 2001 I've got a client with a 401(k) plan which when aggregated with other plans (mp/ps) is Top-Heavy. Turns out the Dad is deferring 3%+, which makes a 3% of pay contribution a requirement. (Dad is key solely by attribution - owns no stock). We've rounded up enough forfeiture money to meet 2001 allocations. For 2002, Dad will elect 0% deferrals. I thought the new law (EGTRRA) in 2002 was supposed to have a provision where deferrals by Key EEs weren't counted as employer contributions for Top-Heavy minimums. I can't see anywhere where this was enacted. Anyone know?
rcline46 Posted August 8, 2001 Posted August 8, 2001 You say there are other plans. If contribs in other plans are at least 3% then you have covered top heavy. You do not give TH allocations in more than one plan unless an employee is in only one plan.
david rigby Posted August 8, 2001 Posted August 8, 2001 Correct. Also, if the group is TH, don't forget that all plans must use a vesting schedule at least as generous as one of the TH minimums. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
R. Butler Posted August 8, 2001 Posted August 8, 2001 To my knowledge the big changes where the revisions to the definition to key employee, the modification of the 4 year look back rule, 401(k) safe harbor plans won't be top heavy and matching contributions can be used to satisfy top heavy contrib. requirement. I have not read anywhere that key employee deferral contributions don't count as employer contribs. for top heavy purposes.
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