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I have a plan that excludes bonuses from the compensation definition, and for this plan year fails the compensation ratio test. The plan is meeting the ADP safe harbor with a 3% nonelective contribution. There is also an additional discretionary match. I cannot find anything definitive to tell me what we need to do with this situation, although my assumption is we need to do the 3% nonelective on the basis of total compensation instead of compensation less bonuses. Correct? Thank you.

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I have a plan that excludes bonuses from the compensation definition, and for this plan year fails the compensation ratio test. The plan is meeting the ADP safe harbor with a 3% nonelective contribution. There is also an additional discretionary match. I cannot find anything definitive to tell me what we need to do with this situation, although my assumption is we need to do the 3% nonelective on the basis of total compensation instead of compensation less bonuses. Correct? Thank you.

I agree. And the plan should be amended for the year (at least) to not exclude the compensation so there is not an operational failure.

QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPA

Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.

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If the only ones who get bonus are HCE, you can do just what you do now and exclude the bonus from comp.

JanetM CPA, MBA

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Check you plan document to see if there is a 414(s) definition of compensation. If so you can always rely on that to do your testing. So if you use a SH definition under 414(s), you are golden!

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If the only ones who get bonus are HCE, you can do just what you do now and exclude the bonus from comp.

The big problem is there are 2 HCEs and only one of them even gets a bonus. 4 NHCEs all have bonus compensation, one of which received almost 15% of his annual compensation in bonus. Miserable failure.

Thank you for your thoughts!

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