austin3515 Posted December 14, 2007 Posted December 14, 2007 Is the "need to prevent foreclosure" defined anywhere. For example, must eviction actually be threatened by the lending institution? Or is a simple, "you're two months past due" notice sufficient? Is there any published guidance anywhere? Austin Powers, CPA, QPA, ERPA
Lori Friedman Posted December 14, 2007 Posted December 14, 2007 I've never found expanded definitions for any of the deemed hardship situations -- medical care, education, eviction, foreclosure, funeral, etc. There's better guidance for what constitutes the overall principle of "hardship". You might want to read Reg. Sec. 1.401(k)-1(d)(1), and there are some good examples at Reg. Sec. 1.401(k)-1(d)(2). After you've determined that a participant does, indeed, have a hardship situation, you can usually apply the subset. Lori Friedman
masteff Posted December 14, 2007 Posted December 14, 2007 My preference was always a letter or something from the lender which explained the consequences of not bringing the mortgage current. So even if it didn't say "we're starting foreclosure", if it said "you're past due... here are the consequences" then I'd take it. My experience is mortgage companies are more than happy to fax letters to past due borrowers if it helps them get paid faster. Just ask the participant to call the lender to request a past due letter. The lender's form letter should have enough to give adequate documentation. Kurt Vonnegut: 'To be is to do'-Socrates 'To do is to be'-Jean-Paul Sartre 'Do be do be do'-Frank Sinatra
BG5150 Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 In my past life of providing "excellent customer service" for plan sponsors, we [my company] required something from the landlord or mortgage company indicating an eviction or forclosure would happen or is happening unless X$ past due were paid. Then a hardship could be taken for up to the amount on the letter and no more; but the amount could be grossed up to include taxes and the 10% penalty tax for early withdrawal. QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
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