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Guest phy401k
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I saw a previous post that stated that if the ACP test uses a safe harbor definition of compensation for the ACP testing that it is not necessary to perform 414(s) testing for the match. Is that correct? I have a plan that exempts overtime and bonuses from compensation for providing matching contributions. However, the ACP testing was completed based on total compensation and passes. Does that mean I don't have to test the compensation, even though the contributions are based on a non-safe harbor definition of compensation?

Thank you for your help!!

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Maybe. Sure you pass the ACP test but have you considered testing for BRF on the rate of match? If you have no problems there, then I can't think of a reason you need to test the plan compensation. You don't mention it, but I assume you pass ADP testing and have no other nondiscrimination testing to run.

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"Big lettuce, big carrots, tomatoes like volleyballs."

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Does the document say specifically what compensation to use, or does it say any compensation that will pass 414(s)?

(Or does it matter? I always thought it should say in the doc which comp to use for testing)

QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPA

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Every answer on BLink could be caveated with "check the plan document", so that is a given.

A document should absolutely not limit what compensation can be used for testing, but rather should have a general reference to 414(s). QDROphile will tell you what he thinks of a document that does otherwise.

"What's in the big salad?"

"Big lettuce, big carrots, tomatoes like volleyballs."

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