Hoard1 Posted September 28, 1999 Posted September 28, 1999 Employer is looking to write a Plan which excludes all Key Employees and Employees in certain job clasifications. I've been told that the IRS office in Ohio has been rejecting this approach claiming that you are imposing a defacto eligiblity requirement under 401(a). Does anyone have any thoughts on this or persoanl experience.
david rigby Posted September 28, 1999 Posted September 28, 1999 Not sure about that definition. You can however, exclude HCEs, if that helps achieve your goal. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
LCARUSI Posted September 29, 1999 Posted September 29, 1999 As long as the job classification isn't service related*, I don't see a problem. You must of course satisfy 410(B). * If the job classification was employees scheduled to work less than 1000 hours, that would be a problem. You can't exclude on that basis.
Dowist Posted October 1, 1999 Posted October 1, 1999 You should look at Reg. ss 1.410(B)-4(B) which defines "reasonable classification established by employer," in connection with the average benefits test of the coverage requirements. It says: "Reasonable classifications generally include specified job categories, nature of compensation (i.e., salaried or hourly), geographic location and similar bona fide business criteria. An enumeration of ees by name is not considered a reasonable classification."
IRC401 Posted October 3, 1999 Posted October 3, 1999 If the IRS attempts to disqualify one of your plans for excluding key employees, please let us all know. If you go in under CAP with a proposed correction of giving special allocations to the family that owns the business, please let us know how the IRS reacts. If you are dealing with MP or P/S contributions, as opposed to 401(k) contributions, try excluding key employees in the allocation section.
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