Guest Phil L Posted October 13, 1999 Posted October 13, 1999 If an employer with a 401(k) plan with a discretionary match decides to make no matching contributions in 1999, does that mean the allowable HCE match limit for 2000 is zero? Any known exceptions to this? ------------------
Alf Posted October 14, 1999 Posted October 14, 1999 I think you are correct. The only "exceptions" I can think of are the first plan year rule (which would only apply in the first year the plan provides matching contributions) and the plan coverage changes rule (which requires you to use a weighted average of the ACPs for the prior year subgroups for certain plan coverage changes that occur during the year). In the facts you describe, the ACP for HCEs would be zero.
MWeddell Posted October 14, 1999 Posted October 14, 1999 The best solution based on what we know is to switch to the current year ADP/ACP testing method if it's at all possible.
Guest Posted October 14, 1999 Posted October 14, 1999 the only other possibilities I could think of would be 1. if Govt extends the deadline for amending plans (we know they have never done that before!) 2. if you have a lot of 'extra' NHCE deferrals in the prior year that you can 'shift' to use in the ACP test
MWeddell Posted October 14, 1999 Posted October 14, 1999 Your question points out that using the prior plan year method for NHCE percentages is a bad idea for plans where the matching amount might decrease. Just to make one of your assumptions explicit: we're all assuming that there are no employee after-tax contributions to this plan, because they also will affect ACP testing. [This message has been edited by MWeddell (edited 10-14-1999).]
John A Posted October 14, 1999 Posted October 14, 1999 If the situation does occur so that no HCE match is allowed for 2000, what is the best solution to be sure HCE match is again allowed for 2001?
Brenda Wren Posted October 26, 1999 Posted October 26, 1999 Is it OK to use prior year testing for ADP and current year testing for ACP and vice versa?
Guest Posted October 28, 1999 Posted October 28, 1999 Yes, if you aren't using a protype. regardless of that, please remember to keep track of whatever method you use. when you finally amend, your document MUST state testing method used... e.g. 1997 ADP current ACP current, 1998 ADP Prior ACP current, etc.
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