cpc0506 Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 Plan document allows for loans from only the salary deferral money source. Can I use the entire account balance to determine the 50% vested balance and then check to see if there is enough salary deferral to matke the loan amount?; OR Is the 50% vested balance limited to 50% balance of the salry deferral account? The office is divided on this issue. Thanks for your insight.
Lou S. Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 I'm not aware of anything in 72(p) that would restrict you to 50% of the deferral account. Unless your loan program limits it to 50% of the deferral account then I would say the loan limit is 50% of total vested account balance not to exceed the deferral account total (since that is the only source they can borrow against).
masteff Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 I would say the loan limit is 50% of total vested account balance not to exceed the deferral account total (since that is the only source they can borrow against). I concur. Once had a small plan that was the exact same way. Kurt Vonnegut: 'To be is to do'-Socrates 'To do is to be'-Jean-Paul Sartre 'Do be do be do'-Frank Sinatra
pmacduff Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 FWIW we also process just as Lou mentioned. our document provider loan policy says "50% of participant's vested balance" which we have always taken to be the whole account, but the participant is then (usually) limited to deferrals and rollover accounts (or whatever sources the Employer chose/chooses in the Adoption Agreement).
BG5150 Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 The document we use a lot has the option of choosing whether the loan availability amount is based on total vested value, or the vested value of only the sources that are considered as collateral. QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
austin3515 Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 Ditto to BG150 - I assume you are also using the Corbel document... Austin Powers, CPA, QPA, ERPA
BG5150 Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 Ditto to BG150 - I assume you are also using the Corbel document... yep. for most stuff. QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
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