PFranckowiak Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Small 401(k) allows for Self Directed Brokerage Accounts HCE 1 Owns Business that has 401(k) and also an LLC (That lends money for business start ups) HCE 2 (over 5% owner of ER sponsoring the 401(k) (also a trustee of 401k plan wants to take part of his SD Account in invest in LLC owned by HCE 1, which is a loan that pays interest only and then principal after 5 years. Broker does not think its a Prohibited Transaction as the loans are to other companies. Prohibited Transaction???? Thanks P
Bird Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Maybe it's just me but I don't follow the scenario. Maybe if you gave the companies different names ("A" and "B") it would help, because from reading it, it seems like one company. Ed Snyder
PFranckowiak Posted May 7, 2013 Author Posted May 7, 2013 Company A, owned by HCE 1 and HCE 2 has a 401(k) plan that allows for SD Brokerage Account. Company B, LLC owned by HCE 1 (In business to loan money for start up companies) HCE 2 wants to invest in a note from Company B in his SD Brokerage Acount. P
BG5150 Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Any control group or ASG issues? QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
masteff Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 HCE 1 is a disqualified person. They are proposing a transaction between the plan (via the SD account of HCE 2) and a disqualified person (by virtue of that person being the owner of company B, the LLC). Smells like a PT to me. Kurt Vonnegut: 'To be is to do'-Socrates 'To do is to be'-Jean-Paul Sartre 'Do be do be do'-Frank Sinatra
PFranckowiak Posted May 7, 2013 Author Posted May 7, 2013 HCE 1 60% owner of Company A, HCE 2 40% owner of Company A Company A has the plan. HCE 1 I think 100% owner of Company B P
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