Lori H Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 a small plan is looking to save the employer cost. Currently satisfy Safe Harbor using the 3% non-elective. It is permissible to amend and notify participants in advance to change to a safe harbor match mid plan year and still satisfy non-discrimination requirements and Top Heavy, yes?
Bill Presson Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 I don't see how. Lou S. 1 William C. Presson, ERPA, QPA, QKA bill.presson@gmail.com C 205.994.4070
Kevin C Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 You can't change mid-year, but there are rules dealing with a short plan year in the safe harbor regs.
austin3515 Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 Kevin, interesting... The short plan year regs I think only say "you must be safe harbor fort he next year" and do not specify that it must be the same safe harbor? That is very very interesting! Bill Presson 1 Austin Powers, CPA, QPA, ERPA
Kevin C Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 Austin, I read 1.401(k)-3(e)(3) the same way you do. To have a short SH plan year, you have to be SH for the preceding year , short year and the following year. But, I don't see any requirement that you be the same safe harbor for those years,
Lori H Posted March 19, 2015 Author Posted March 19, 2015 If the Safe Harbor non-elective was rescinded, what was contributed prior to could be used towards Top Heavy minimum?
Kevin C Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 If the non-elective safe harbor is suspended, the employer contributions through the suspension date would count towards the top heavy minimum.
Kevin C Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 If you have access to the IRS DC Q&A handout from the 2012 ASPPA Annual conference, Question 36 deals with amending a SH plan mid-year to have a short plan year.
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now