austin3515 Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 Does everyone agree that Prime + 1 for participant loans is officially 4.5% (3.5 + 1)? I'm just surprised I haven't seen articles or email blasts on this topic yet. Austin Powers, CPA, QPA, ERPA
QDROphile Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 Please identify the definition of "Prime"
austin3515 Posted December 23, 2015 Author Posted December 23, 2015 Prime as announced by the federal government?http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h15/current/ Austin Powers, CPA, QPA, ERPA
masteff Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 I agree with 4.5% Kurt Vonnegut: 'To be is to do'-Socrates 'To do is to be'-Jean-Paul Sartre 'Do be do be do'-Frank Sinatra
QDROphile Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 So that is what is meant when plan terms use "prime" without any other modifier or explanation?
BG5150 Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 Does the rate change right away? Or the beginning of the next calendar quarter? QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
Bird Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 Thanks for posting; I had kind of expected to hear of the prime rate increasing without having to go look for it. I agree that prime plus 1 is 4.5%. For anyone who doesn't know, the Fed doesn't actually set prime; as per their footnote, it is effectively set by banks and might vary by bank: Rate posted by a majority of top 25 (by assets in domestic offices) insured U.S.-chartered commercial banks. Prime is one of several base rates used by banks to price short-term business loans. 'tho I imagine in today's world it is uniform. Ed Snyder
austin3515 Posted December 23, 2015 Author Posted December 23, 2015 Has anyone in the last 6 years heard prime + 1 defined as anything but 4.25? I certainly have not. Austin Powers, CPA, QPA, ERPA
ESOP Guy Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 I agree the prime rate is now 3.5% so prime plus 1 is 4.5%. I also agree with Bird prime is NOT announced by the government but set by banks. In fact i have seen some documents and/or loan policies specifically say that the plan is using prime as published in the WSJ for any given week. http://www.bankrate.com/rates/interest-rates/prime-rate.aspx
My 2 cents Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 It is my understanding that the rate published by the Wall Street Journal reflects only the top 10 banks now. When 7 have updated their rates, the WSJ runs with it. Always check with your actuary first!
austin3515 Posted December 24, 2015 Author Posted December 24, 2015 For us common folk the statement "Prime is 3.5" is more than sufficient to keep me out of trouble! Austin Powers, CPA, QPA, ERPA
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