austin3515 Posted October 19, 2016 Posted October 19, 2016 https://hrlaws.services.xerox.com/2016/10/18/social-security-benefits-and-taxable-wage-base-to-increase-for-2017/ Anyone know why so much? After 117,000, 118,500, 118,500 in 2014, 2015 and 2016 respectively, it jumped to $127,200 in 2017. Austin Powers, CPA, QPA, ERPA
ETA Consulting LLC Posted October 19, 2016 Posted October 19, 2016 Well, mathematically, you have a 15.3% overall FICA up to the TWB. When you look at how many individuals with Compensation above $118,500; then you'll see a huge increase in tax revenue from this increase.I'm not one to choose tax policy over monetary policy or vice versa, but the math alone would project a huge increase in revenue through employment taxes.Good Luck! CPC, QPA, QKA, TGPC, ERPA
Buffys Redrum Posted October 19, 2016 Posted October 19, 2016 Mathematically? Or the idea that they're running out of money? Lou S. 1
austin3515 Posted October 19, 2016 Author Posted October 19, 2016 I assume there must be some legal basis for jacking the wage base though? Is it just on a whim, or is it on a funding status? Austin Powers, CPA, QPA, ERPA
Tom Poje Posted October 19, 2016 Posted October 19, 2016 because last year's cost of living was 0%, therefore despite a formula which would normally have caused an increase last year, the special rule "NO COLA, NO increase in the TWB" so if you don't drink cola, there is no increase in your 'wage base' the most recent version of my spread sheet PLAN LIMITATIONs I posted elsewhere even has a chart indicating what the wage base would have been except for this special rule. austin3515 and ETA Consulting LLC 2
ETA Consulting LLC Posted October 19, 2016 Posted October 19, 2016 because last year's cost of living was 0%, therefore despite a formula which would normally have caused an increase last year, the special rule "NO COLA, NO increase in the TWB" so if you don't drink cola, there is no increase in your 'wage base' the most recent version of my spread sheet PLAN LIMITATIONs I posted elsewhere even has a chart indicating what the wage base would have been except for this special rule. So, there is a method to the (perceived) madness Thanks Poje! CPC, QPA, QKA, TGPC, ERPA
david rigby Posted October 19, 2016 Posted October 19, 2016 See Tom's spreadsheet at Post #4 in this discussion thread: http://benefitslink.com/boards/index.php/topic/59532-new-limits/ Also, read Post #9. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
Tom Poje Posted October 19, 2016 Posted October 19, 2016 by the way Austin, my initial reaction was the same as yours, how did it jump so much, and then looking at last year's data I realized what happened. I guess it is sort of like the year in which the CPI actually dropped, but the limitation didn't drop because of a special rule
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