BG5150 Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 What charges, if any, do you put in the SAR for copies of the paper 5500 for the per page and full copy items? I usually put $0.25/page and $0.75/$3.00 for full copies of SF/5500, respectively. What you you put in your SARs? QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
Bird Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 Our (Ft William) software spits out "The charge to cover copying costs will be $5.00 for the full annual report, or $0.25 per page for any part thereof." I assume that's the max in the regs. Ed Snyder
BG5150 Posted October 21, 2016 Author Posted October 21, 2016 Even for the SF's? Pretty steep for 3 pages... GMK 1 QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
A Shot in the Dark Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 We use FT William and when we complete the SAR checklist, you update the copying costs as part of the checklist. I thought the "standard" for setting costs was defined as "reasonable".
Peter Gulia Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 Does anyone mention a charge more than $5.00 if the report is more than 20 pages? Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
bzorc Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 I have always used 25 cents per page, so for a large report, the cost could be greater than $5.00
BG5150 Posted October 27, 2016 Author Posted October 27, 2016 I have always used 25 cents per page, so for a large report, the cost could be greater than $5.00 So what do you put in for the cost fo the entire report? Leave it blank? Or do you calculate it for each plan? I think this is becoming less and less relevant with all the forms on the DOL site now, but it has to be in there. QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
Peter Gulia Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Just a curiosity: If specifying the administrator's charge for the report is as simple as multiplying 25 cents by the number of pages, does the 5500 software count the number of pages (including those of uploaded attachments) and compute the arithmetic to fill-in the charge? Or is that too much to hope for? Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
ESOP Guy Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 Just a curiosity: If specifying the administrator's charge for the report is as simple as multiplying 25 cents by the number of pages, does the 5500 software count the number of pages (including those of uploaded attachments) and compute the arithmetic to fill-in the charge? Or is that too much to hope for? I will admit now a days someone prepares all my 5500s and SARs and I just check them (and give very little thought to this costs). But back when I was doing it the answers would have been: too much to hope for. You had to hard code the cost in or use some default setting.
icuhowie Posted January 10, 2017 Posted January 10, 2017 Hello, First time Posting here. Received a "Summary Annual Report" for our company Financial My Savings Plan ( 401k ) little useful information in the report, but there is an option to receive a copy of the full annual report, or part there of, on request. The items listed below are included in that report. * Financial Information; * information on payments to service providers; * Assets held for investments; * Transactions in excess of 5 percent of the plan assets and * Information regarding any common or collective trusts, pooled separate accounts, master trusts or 103-12 investment entities in which the plan participates. --- OK lots of information, I can read the Summary a get a little information but not much. So I requested the Full Annual Report and was sent page 1, 2 and 3 of the 550 Form that was filed and has less information then the Summary report. So my question is , What should a Annual Report look like? I want some detail, did not find anything with google , but did find this forum . Thanks for any information.
Kevin C Posted January 10, 2017 Posted January 10, 2017 Forms 5500 are freely available on the DOL website. The fastest way to get a copy is to go there and search for the filing. https://www.efast.dol.gov/portal/app/disseminate?execution=e1s1 Please note the search engine they use is really picky, so you will need to exactly match the first part of the plan or employer name as it appears on the Form 5500. Or, you can search using the EIN listed on the SAR. It should bring up all the Form 5500's they've filed since 2009. Find the one you want and you can print or save it. If it was filed very recently, the site may show a message that the attachments to the filing are not available yet. That is normal and the attachments will show up on the site after someone has looked at them to make sure they did not attach something they were not supposed to attach.
icuhowie Posted January 10, 2017 Posted January 10, 2017 Kevin, Perfect, now why couldn't my company or even the AON H... the company that manages our 401k do this? Thanks again
Bug on my window Posted October 22, 2018 Posted October 22, 2018 Normally the charge should be 'whatever it costs the plan sponsor' to respond to the request, but no more than $.25 per page. At least, that's my understanding of 29 CFR 2520.104b-30. Cornell Law School 104b-30 Charges for Documents The above is my opinion only, not anyone else's. I'm not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV.
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