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We have a 403b plan that provides a 7% match but only to employees who contribute at least 5%.  Is the plan tested under the ACP test or the Nondiscrimination test under 401(a)(4)?   I assume the ACP since it is conditioned on the employee contributing. 

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There is no "Matching"formula.  The document says if you contribute at least 5%, we will give you a 7% contribution.  So if you do 4%, you get nothing.  If you do 10% you get 7%.  So you either get 7% or 0%. 

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it's contingent on a salary deferral, still think it's a match. i think the only way it's not a match is if the 5% deferral is mandatory (possibly as a condition of employment) - you have to do 5% to be in the plan, can't do anything less.

Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA

Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services

kprell@bpas.com

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Maybe you can think of the match as a tiered match as follows:

  • Deferrals between 0-5% get 0% match
  • Deferrals 5% and above get 7% match

Then you would test the match in the ACP test, and in addition you would need Benefits Rights and Features test to deal with tiers of the match.

 

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Agree with the above. See Treas. reg. 1.401(m)-1(a)(1)(ii) (for the BRF issue) and (a)(2) (for the "are these matching contributions" issue).

Luke Bailey

Senior Counsel

Clark Hill PLC

214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com

2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600

Frisco, TX 75034

Posted

Thanks so much.  That is what I thought.  The fail the ACP test but we could pass the 401(a)(4) test.  The prior bundled vendor did not do anything.  We just picked this plan up.  It is a fairly large plan and they are going to be surprised when I tell them we are going to have some refunds to deal with in the next four weeks.

Posted

Who's going to look at past years?  Get your VCP pencils sharpened.

QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPA

Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.

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