AlbanyConsultant Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Participants who were terminated but receiving RMDs didn't need to be reported on the 8955-SSA because they were receiving at least some portion of their benefits. With 2020 and the RMD waiver, many RMD-eligible participants did not take their RMD. So when we're working on the reporting this year, they need to be reported on the 8955-SSA for 2020 because the "payment of the deferred vested retirement benefit cease[d] before ALL of the participant's vested benefit is paid to the participant..." (from the 8955-SSA instructions). I'm wondering if there was something covering this specific situation out there. Otherwise, there are going to be a bunch of additional people reported... and we know how well the SSA maintains this list, even when the Code D is properly reported at the time of payout. *cough* not overly well *cough* I certainly don't want to make the decision for my clients and not report people and run the risk of incurring the $10/person/day penalty, and it's not like it's a particularly large amount of work for the typical-size clients we service, but I just figured I'd check the hive-mind since I didn't see anything addressing it myself. Yes, I know that if the participant has taken their 2021 RMD by the time of the 8955-SSA filing, that would put them back in "pay" status and make them not need the form... but sometimes, getting that information is harder than just completing the form! Thanks. Luke Bailey 1
Belgarath Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Wow, good question. I haven't seen anything from the IRS on this either.
BG5150 Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 I wouldn't worry about not reporting them this year. Has anyone been in trouble for missing ANYBODY on an SSA, let alone someone who missed their RMD payment? QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
AlbanyConsultant Posted April 9, 2021 Author Posted April 9, 2021 I've never had an issue with missing someone on an SSA before, but watch this be the year someone at the IRS figures out they need to check this. I mean, what's one last slap in the face 2020 can heap on us? LOL
Bird Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 3 hours ago, AlbanyConsultant said: So when we're working on the reporting this year, they need to be reported on the 8955-SSA for 2020 because the "payment of the deferred vested retirement benefit cease[d] before ALL of the participant's vested benefit is paid to the participant..." (from the 8955-SSA instructions). I'd say it didn't "cease" it was "suspended." Luke Bailey and Bill Presson 2 Ed Snyder
AlbanyConsultant Posted April 9, 2021 Author Posted April 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, Bird said: I'd say it didn't "cease" it was "suspended." So therefore, because the RMD is expected to resume, it is not ceased and no 8955-SSA would need to be filed. I like that take. Bill Presson 1
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