Renee H Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 I have a question regarding 2 corporations owned by the same person. Company A is 100% owned by Owner A and sponsors a 401k/PS plan. Owner A is acquiring a new company B with different employees in the same industry. Company B does not currently sponsor a pension plan since it is a new company. Is Company B permitted to establish a separate 401k/PS for the benefit of its employees, or must these employees participate in Company A's plan? Am I correct to assume NDT will include employees from both company's? Company A has 60 employees and Company B will have 40. I'm wondering if there is a plan design available to get around the large plan filing requirement.
Lou S. Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 Company B can have it's own plan. They are a controlled group so you need test everything together and you have one 401(a)(17) limit and one 415 limit if you have any employees who wide up working for both company A & B. I think you may also have one 401(k) test, but I could be wrong on that. So yes but some extra testing. Luke Bailey 1
CuseFan Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Provided each plan can satisfy coverage without the need to aggregate then you can test separately for nondiscrimination. Luke Bailey 1 Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
CuseFan Posted October 12, 2023 Posted October 12, 2023 22 hours ago, CuseFan said: with the need to aggregate Sorry, without the need to aggregate. Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
Bill Presson Posted October 12, 2023 Posted October 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, CuseFan said: Sorry, without the need to aggregate. You can edit your original post. Click the three dots in the upper right corner. CuseFan 1 William C. Presson, ERPA, QPA, QKA bill.presson@gmail.com C 205.994.4070
CuseFan Posted October 12, 2023 Posted October 12, 2023 Thanks Bill, I never knew that - I learned something new today so you can teach an old dog new tricks! Of course no guarantees I'll remember that months from now when it happens again. Bill Presson 1 Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
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