Peter Gulia Posted September 19 Posted September 19 For 2026, Internal Revenue Code § 414(v)(7) burdens only a participant who: had, from the employer that maintains the plan, 2025 Social Security wages (not counting self-employment income as a partner or member) more than $150,000 [$145,000 inflation-adjusted]; and is (or by the end of 2026 will be) 50 or older; and might need an age-based catch-up to support her deferrals. For your typical client plan, how many people is this? FishOn 1 Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
Popular Post Belgarath Posted September 19 Popular Post Posted September 19 We haven't done (nor will we) any formal quantitative analysis of this question. I CAN say that it is darned few, in general. An administrative PIA all out of proportion to the end results. Somewhat typical of many of the SECURE/2.0 changes... AlbanyConsultant, RatherBeGolfing, Peter Gulia and 3 others 5 1
Artie M Posted September 19 Posted September 19 FWIW... I heard on an NPR news report the other night that about 8% of employees in the US make more than $145K/year. Peter Gulia 1 Just my thoughts so DO NOT take my ramblings as advice.
Peter Gulia Posted September 19 Author Posted September 19 Here’s what I’m seeing: A small business might have a few nonowner managers subject to § 414(v)(7). For many law firms, § 414(v)(7) doesn’t burden the associates (because they’re not age 49), doesn’t burden the partners (if they’re self-employed individuals), and might burden a nonpartner senior counsel (but most of these are younger than 49). Section 414(v)(7) burdens those of the nonlawyer assistants who are 49 or older. For a university, § 414(v)(7) burdens those in the faculty or administration who are 49 or older. For a governmental employer, § 414(v)(7) tends to affect department heads. For a big financial-services business, § 414(v)(7) can affect thousands of participants. Of course, what I’m seeing might not reflect workforces as a whole. Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
Lou S. Posted September 19 Posted September 19 You are going to need to define burden a bit better. Affects would be a better term since it's hard to see some who is able to afford to defer more than $23K into a retirement account as being burdened that their deferral beyond be designated ROTH and the future earnings on that not subject to income taxation. Peter Gulia 1
Peter Gulia Posted September 19 Author Posted September 19 I meant burdened only in the sense of § 414(v)(7) depriving an individual of what otherwise might be her choice between Roth and non-Roth deferrals. (While I might share your view that many participants ought to prefer Roth for all or some of one’s deferrals, there are situations in which choosing non-Roth can be reasoned financial planning.) Anyhow, I wasn’t thinking about any individual’s preference, only whether § 414(v)(7) restrains a participant’s choice for the catch-up portion of a deferral. And “affected” is the language I advised for communications about the soon-to-be-applied tax law. Lou S. and FishOn 2 Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
FishOn Posted September 24 Posted September 24 I just did an analysis on our largest plan in terms of employee count using 2024 census data to determine who might be potentially affected. For this plan it ended up being about 8% of the employees (like Artie heard). It seems that what the hard part and sticking point for the employers are that there is another "type" of employee in addition to HCEs, Keys and NHCEs with a completely different compensation determination than regular plan compensation or statutory compensation. Peter Gulia 1
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