401Katie Posted Monday at 08:28 PM Posted Monday at 08:28 PM What is everyone following as far as a retention schedule for distribution information? Meaning, how long are you holding onto copies of outgoing correspondence on plans?
Artie M Posted Wednesday at 04:35 PM Posted Wednesday at 04:35 PM I think you need to be more specific on what type of correspondence you are referring to. If it is a document that relates to a filing the ERISA statutory retention period is 6 years (though we normally advise 8 years). If it is a document that relates to determining participant's benefit which is due or may become due, there is no set period (we recommend holding it until at least 3 years after final distribution). One big warning...do not rely on prior record keepers to retain your documents. 401Katie 1 Just my thoughts so DO NOT take my ramblings as advice.
401Katie Posted Wednesday at 05:16 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 05:16 PM Thanks Artie - specifically wondering about distribution records (paperwork copies, check or ach records, 1099 copies, etc.)
CuseFan Posted Wednesday at 06:59 PM Posted Wednesday at 06:59 PM Personally, I am of the opinion that those records should be kept electronically and in perpetuity, if not by the TPA/RK/Trustee/Custodian then certainly by the plan sponsor with the assistance from one of the aforementioned entities. Doesn't need to be extensive, just needs to sufficiently prove someone has been paid out. Why? SSA sends me a letter saying my employer's plan from 35 years ago MAY owe me a benefit. Not remembering they paid me back then and instead of rolling it over I went to the casino and lost it, I have no record, so I make a claim on that plan. I don't accept their answer of we don't have you in our records any more so you must have been paid out, so I go screaming "I want my two dollars!" (bonus points for the movie reference) and threaten to talk to my lawyer, the DOL, the IRS because I've seen everything worthwhile on Netflix and have nothing better to do now. This sends the Plan Administrator scrambling, calling around to past and present service advisors, muttering "I don't have time for this" and "I'm getting too old for this sh1t" (yes, another movie reference) before caving like a Democratic senator and concluding it's easier to pay me my $2. The moral here is (1) someone should retain these records in perpetuity, logically the plan sponsor, and (2) responsible party(ies) need to be diligent in reporting deletions on Form 8955-SSA. Then the too often occurring scenario from above gets avoided. Nichol, Jakyasar, Paul I and 1 other 4 Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
Peter Gulia Posted Wednesday at 08:52 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:52 PM Thank you for the pop-culture reference to Better Off Dead. CuseFan and Bri 2 Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
Peter Gulia Posted Wednesday at 08:54 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:54 PM And Lethal Weapon. CuseFan 1 Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
Belgarath Posted Thursday at 11:25 AM Posted Thursday at 11:25 AM I agree with Cuse. We tell them to keep everything forever, and if they want to do otherwise, (with or without their lawyer's advice) it is up to them. CuseFan 1
CuseFan Posted Thursday at 06:04 PM Posted Thursday at 06:04 PM @Peter Gulia thank you for getting those! Especially Better Off Dead, because I think the Lethal Weapon one was easy. As I get older and our staff gets younger, such references are meaningless and unappreciated! Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
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