TPApril Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Intent is to avoid politics here. The situation goes back to 2018. Missing participant who was not cashing RMD checks has been found and turns out was never missing, just doesn't want to cash a check for fear of being located by the government. Unknown whether participant is legal or illegal but there is an SSNO (Sorry I don't know details about all that). Yes 1099-R's are sent annually. Just trying to be creative here on how to get them their money. One idea - has anyone ever managed to get cash from a Plan to give out the RMD rather than in check form? Total account balance is < $20,000. Total outstanding uncashed RMD's < $1,000.
Bri Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Does the plan provide for forceouts after NRA? That could eliminate future problems for the sponsor, at least. (Still hoping someone suggests a sack of nickels with a big $ on the front, left on the guy's doorstep every December.)
david rigby Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 57 minutes ago, TPApril said: Just trying to be creative here on how to get them their money. In what way has the Plan failed to "get them their money"? From your post, it appears the RMD has been paid and the 1099-R has been provided, but the participant has failed to cash the checks. Is it the responsibility of the Plan or trustee to force a participant to cash the check? Perhaps a gentle reminder that the cashing of a check is not what alerts "the government", but it's the filing of the 1099 form, and he/she has taxable income? I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
RatherBeGolfing Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 34 minutes ago, david rigby said: Perhaps a gentle reminder that the cashing of a check is not what alerts "the government", but it's the filing of the 1099 form, and he/she has taxable income? I'd also add that it was taxable when available to them; they can't escape that by not cashing the check (constructive receipt)
TPApril Posted 3 hours ago Author Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, david rigby said: In what way has the Plan failed to "get them their money"? From your post, it appears the RMD has been paid and the 1099-R has been provided, but the participant has failed to cash the checks. Is it the responsibility of the Plan or trustee to force a participant to cash the check? Perhaps a gentle reminder that the cashing of a check is not what alerts "the government", but it's the filing of the 1099 form, and he/she has taxable income? The recordkeeper has put the money back into the plan in an Unallocated Account that we are now reconciling in addition to the plan's regular accounts. Preference is to get the participant out of the plan entirely.
CuseFan Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, Bri said: sack of nickels Pennies! If you can find enough of them. Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
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