RatherBeGolfing Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 It's one of those days and this just came up A client that does not currently offer a retirement plan just (like last night) acquired a new division with employees who are under a CBA. The CBA states that the employees must have access to a 401(k) plan with a safe harbor match and an additional fixed match. He currently has about 40 employees, and the new division will add 7-8 employees covered under the CBA. Since it is last minute, he wants to put the plan in place today, but exclude all employees not covered by the CBA. The 7-8 CBA employees are all NHCEs, all owners and HCEs are part of the excluded group. I know I can do it from a document perspective, and since no HCEs will benefit I'm thinking that covering a small number of employees will still work, but something is telling me Im forgetting something.... Anyone see a an issue with only the CBA employees having access to the plan even though they are all NHCEs? Thanks
Mike Preston Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 I don't see anything that comes close to a problem. RatherBeGolfing 1
Bill Presson Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 The only issue I see is that it has to start tomorrow if it's a 2021 calendar year plan. RatherBeGolfing 1 William C. Presson, ERPA, QPA, QKA bill.presson@gmail.com C 205.994.4070
Mike Preston Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 Just now, Bill Presson said: The only issue I see is that it has to start tomorrow if it's a 2021 calendar year plan. He already said plan is starting today. RatherBeGolfing 1
Bill Presson Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 Just now, Mike Preston said: He already said plan is starting today. Saying it and getting it done are two different things. 😁 RatherBeGolfing 1 William C. Presson, ERPA, QPA, QKA bill.presson@gmail.com C 205.994.4070
Mike Preston Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 Just now, Bill Presson said: Saying it and getting it done are two different things. 😁 True dat. Bill Presson 1
RatherBeGolfing Posted September 30, 2021 Author Posted September 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, Bill Presson said: Saying it and getting it done are two different things. 😁 First payroll won't process until mid October - so its tight on time but doable Thank you both! Bill Presson 1
Luke Bailey Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 RatherBeGolfing, under Treas. reg. 1.410(b)-2(a)(7) a plan that covers only collectively bargained employees automatically satisfies coverage, so you're fine. Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034
Mike Preston Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Luke Bailey said: RatherBeGolfing, under Treas. reg. 1.410(b)-2(a)(7) a plan that covers only collectively bargained employees automatically satisfies coverage, so you're fine. So do plans that cover nothing but NHCEs. So does that make this doubly fine? Bill Presson 1
Luke Bailey Posted October 5, 2021 Posted October 5, 2021 On 10/1/2021 at 12:00 AM, Mike Preston said: So do plans that cover nothing but NHCEs. So does that make this doubly fine? I guess so, Mike. But there's less data involved with the collectively bargained exception. Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034
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