Jakyasar Posted February 4, 2022 Posted February 4, 2022 Hi Having a discussion with someone and need outside expert opinion. I never came across with a situation like this. Sub-S corp XYZ is owned by Joe 100%. No salaries taken. LLC partnership is owner 100% by XYZ. LLC has Joe and Mary (husband/wife) as w-2 employees. LLC is setting up a DB plan LLC has income and will cover the deductible contribution and transfer the balance of the profits to XYZ. This is the way the structure was explained to me. Q1: Is the LLC DB covered by PBGC? Not a professional entity so technically not an exempt category of business. Q2: Is the above structure kosher? I am assuming the deduction is fine with the LLC Anything else I am not thinking of? Thank you
Bill Presson Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 I can't answer Q1 so I'll leave that to others. But I don't see anything specifically not kosher other than I'm not sure what they're trying to accomplish unless it's hiding the real ownership. The LLC can't be a partnership, though, with just a single owner. William C. Presson, ERPA, QPA, QKA bill.presson@gmail.com C 205.994.4070
CuseFan Posted February 7, 2022 Posted February 7, 2022 I'm guessing LLC is disregarded entity and Joe is considered owner and so you have an exempt owner/spouse plan, but interested in what others more knowledgeable in these intricacies think. Luke Bailey 1 Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
Bill Presson Posted February 7, 2022 Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, CuseFan said: I'm guessing LLC is disregarded entity and Joe is considered owner and so you have an exempt owner/spouse plan, but interested in what others more knowledgeable in these intricacies think. I guess it would be a disregarded entity, but XYZ is the owner, not Joe. William C. Presson, ERPA, QPA, QKA bill.presson@gmail.com C 205.994.4070
C. B. Zeller Posted February 7, 2022 Posted February 7, 2022 If there is any doubt as to whether a plan (or potential plan) is covered by PBGC, you can request a coverage determination for free. Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
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