Dalai Pookah Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 The question has come up whether a plan currently using a safe harbor match can mid-year amend the plan to provide for a 4% safe harbor non-elective contribution. The request is prompted by the sponsor considering adding a DB plan for the current year realizing that the non-elective form of SH would be a better fit for a combo plan. Notices 2016-16 and 2020-86 don't seem to address this specific situation. I think it should be allowed. Any other thoughts?
Belgarath Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 I would respectfully disagree. See the following PROHIBITED change, copied from IRS Notice 2016-16. 3. A mid-year change to the type of safe harbor plan, for example, a change from a traditional § 401(k) safe harbor plan to a QACA § 401(k) safe harbor plan. You can't change the TYPE of safe harbor plan mid-year, even though certain formula changes can be made. C. B. Zeller, Luke Bailey and Lou S. 3
Dalai Pookah Posted October 11, 2022 Author Posted October 11, 2022 That was my stumbling block. I read that clause as changing the larger paradigm, not the formula. It's still not clear, but if I can stop a match mid-year and adopt a non-elective mid-year, shouldn't it follow that I can do them back-to-back?
Belgarath Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 No. At least IMHO. Maybe others will chime in here.
C. B. Zeller Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 48 minutes ago, Dalai Pookah said: if I can stop a match mid-year and adopt a non-elective mid-year, shouldn't it follow that I can do them back-to-back? It would - at worst you could do the amendment to suspend the match on one day and then adopt the 4% non-elective the next day - but can you really do that? Notice 2020-86 Q&A-8 says you can suspend a plan's safe harbor nonelective contributions during the year, later readopt the 4% nonelective, and still retain the safe harbor. It doesn't say anything about suspending a match and being eligible for this treatment. Given that the IRS chose to specify nonelective in this Q&A - combined with the section of 2016-16 that Belgarath referenced - it seems that you can not get this treatment with a safe harbor match. Luke Bailey, ugueth and Bri 3 Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
Nate S Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 Suspend the safe harbor match & let the ADP testing fall where it may.(keep deferrals maxed tho) If considering a DB combo, presumably the tax-advantaged contribution is a driving factor? Consider using a prior service formula to help drive up the first year maximum, but I'm also guessing that the maximum is more than enough to make up an additional $26k...
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