drakecohen Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 For 2022 a participant (age 50 spouse of owner) has W-2 salary of $27,500 with 401(k) deferrals of $27,000 and $1,100 in SH Match that has been deposited over the year. Is this possible?
Lou S. Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 Yes In theory. In practice you may have some trouble with payroll taxes. Luke Bailey, C. B. Zeller and EMoney 3
WDIK Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 Aren't total annual additions limited to 100% of wages? The $28,100 would exceed that limit. ...but then again, What Do I Know?
Popular Post Bri Posted January 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2023 The 6,500 in catchups don't count towards the 415(c) annual additions limit. So that total is really just the 20,500 plus 1,100. C. B. Zeller, Luke Bailey, chc93 and 3 others 6
Lou S. Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 To expand on Bri, Catch-ups don't count toward any applicable limit (which includes 415(c)) You still need to have compensation to make a 401(k) deferred contribution, that is you can't defer compensation you don't earn, but you can go over the 100% of pay limit or the 415 dollar limit if employer contributions push you over the regular limit but not past the catch-up limit plus the regular limit assuming 401(k) contributions are at least equal to the catch-up limit, the participant is old enough to qualify for catch-up, and they plan allows catch-ups. Luke Bailey 1
MDCPA Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/5/2023 at 9:14 AM, Bri said: The 6,500 in catchups don't count towards the 415(c) annual additions limit. So that total is really just the 20,500 plus 1,100. Well, this is on the right track but technically there is not 6,500 in catch-up. That's the limit but not in this scenario the amount to be treated as catch-up. Assuming the W-2 salary of $27,500 is also compensation for 415(c) purposes under the terms of the document, then the breakdown is: regular deferrals of 26,400, match of 1,100 for a total of 27,500 included in the annual additions testing, and 600 treated as catch-up. Bri 1
Bri Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 Nah, once you blow past 20,500 any deferrals start filling that catchup bucket. Luke Bailey, Lou S. and R Griffith 3
Nate S Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 Maximum annual addition here is $34,000, assuming they have at least $6,500 in deferrals.
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