justanotheradmin Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 Closed MEP 401(k) plan. Can an audit be avoided if the individual entities are each below the participant count threshold? The MEP as a whole appears to be over the audit count threshold. I confess my ignorance, I've only had experience with small MEPs, usually former control groups that became not-a-control-group but still worked together. I have seen some MEPs do individual 5500s for each single employer, does anyone have any rules or reading I can do on this topic? Would filing each entity under a separate 5500 alleviate the audit requirement? If there are other threads or reading material on this question specifically, please point me in that direction. I do understand the Form 5500 has an updated MEP attachment, which I think I understand fine. My question isn't related to that. Thanks everyone! I'm a stranger on the internet. Nothing I write is tax or legal advice. I'd like a witty saying here, but I don't have any. When in doubt, what does the plan document say?
Luke Bailey Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 justanotheradmin, the audit requirement is determined at the adopting employer level, looking at its participants. If all the MEPs employers satisfy certain conditions, the MEP files a single 5500. But the audit requirement is separate and applies to each adopting employer. justanotheradmin 1 Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034
justanotheradmin Posted September 8, 2023 Author Posted September 8, 2023 Thanks Luke! I'm a stranger on the internet. Nothing I write is tax or legal advice. I'd like a witty saying here, but I don't have any. When in doubt, what does the plan document say?
justanotheradmin Posted September 8, 2023 Author Posted September 8, 2023 14 hours ago, Luke Bailey said: justanotheradmin, the audit requirement is determined at the adopting employer level, looking at its participants. If all the MEPs employers satisfy certain conditions, the MEP files a single 5500. But the audit requirement is separate and applies to each adopting employer. how would this be reflected on the Form 5500? The closed MEP files a single form 5500. The participant counts as a whole are all above 120. A schedule H would be required, no? And there is no place on the Schedule H to claim the small plan audit waiver. I'm a stranger on the internet. Nothing I write is tax or legal advice. I'd like a witty saying here, but I don't have any. When in doubt, what does the plan document say?
Terry Power Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 Happy to chat about this if you'd like, justanotheradmin.... Terry Power The Platinum 401k, Inc. tpower@theplatinum401k.com 813.774.3366
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