Basically Posted March 4, 2024 Posted March 4, 2024 A single member plan (62yo participant) wants to take a distribution from his plan, pay the taxes outside the plan and put the total rollover into a Roth IRA. Can that happen?
C. B. Zeller Posted March 4, 2024 Posted March 4, 2024 Yes. See the IRS rollover chart for reference: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/rollover_chart.pdf They could also potentially do an in-plan Roth conversion instead, which would avoid the need to actually distribute any money from the plan. Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
Basically Posted March 4, 2024 Author Posted March 4, 2024 He's thinking the plan may close before the 5 years is up. May just be easier to keep the money outside the plan Thank you for the link.
Basically Posted March 5, 2024 Author Posted March 5, 2024 5 year rule - The Mega Roth scheme where a participant puts in a voluntary contribution and then converts to ROTH immediately starts a 5 year period. For this guy, because the money has been in the plan for more than 5 years already, when it converts to Roth will he have a 5 year rule attached to that money?
WCC Posted March 6, 2024 Posted March 6, 2024 9 hours ago, Basically said: For this guy, because the money has been in the plan for more than 5 years already, when it converts to Roth will he have a 5 year rule attached to that money? 5 year clock starts the year the first Roth contribution and/or conversion is made in the 401k. Keep in mind if he satisfies the 5 year rule in the 401k, then rolls to a brand new/newly opened Roth IRA, the 5 year clock starts over.
Basically Posted March 6, 2024 Author Posted March 6, 2024 My understanding is he has a Roth IRA. If he satisfies the 5 year rule in the plan and rolls the Roth money into an existing Roth IRA then he is all set. Honest, doesn't make sense to me a new clock would be started if he rolled Roth money out of a plan into a new Roth IRA... It's Roth already. Oh well. Knowing that he may close the plan soon (within 5 years) he would be better off taking a distribution and converting it to Roth outside the plan. Start the clock outside the plan so he doesn't have to re-start the clock. Make sense?
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