Nic Pospiech Posted January 27 Posted January 27 I have a client who is the owner of a business - who also provides consulting service as a separate company to said business. He is owner of both businesses. Business number 1 is set up as a Safe Harbor Non-Elective plan with 10 employees. The client wants to contribute his max deferral (comp $350k) of $23,500.00 plus receive his 3% NE SH of $ 10,500.00. So for business 1 - he would have contributed (or received from the company a total of $34,000.00. In business 2 - the client is the only employee - he wants to set up an After Tax contribution in the amount of $36,000.00 so he can max his total contributions at $70,000.00 for the year. He also earns a separate $350k in this business. So...After Tax contributions are tested in the ACP test of business 2 - but since the plans do not have to be aggregated for ACP Testing - what is to stop him from doing this? It seems like he could just skip providing any Employer Contributions to business 1 (outside of the SH NE 3%) without failing any testing. What am I failing to see? Thanks!
C. B. Zeller Posted January 27 Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Nic Pospiech said: but since the plans do not have to be aggregated for ACP Testing This is true, but since the two companies are an affiliated service group, they must be considered a single employer for coverage testing. The NHCEs in Business 1 are not benefiting in the match/after-tax portion of the plan so the NHCE coverage ratio is zero and therefore the coverage test will fail. Nic Pospiech, Bri, Bill Presson and 1 other 4 Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
CuseFan Posted January 27 Posted January 27 Actually, if he owns both then it's a control group rather than an ASG, but treatment is the same. Nic Pospiech and Bill Presson 2 Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
Nic Pospiech Posted January 27 Author Posted January 27 Yes...that is it. Thanks all! We don't deal with a ton of After Tax plans....so I knew that this was to simple...but just wasn't thinking the process through.
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