thepensionmaven Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 We administer a safe harbor 401K with Roth only deferrals. W-2, boxes 1 & 5 are the same dollar amount, employee deferred $5,000. Wouldn't the deferral (whether Roth or not) be added to box 5 for the calculation of the safe harbor match??
Belgarath Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 I'm going from memory here - the Roth deferrals are already included in Box 1, so there are no deferrals to "add back" in to Box 1 if it is just Roth. So I would expect the Box 5 amounts to be the same, in the absence of any other modifications. If you add the Roth deferrals back in, you'd be overstating Box 5. At least that's my recollection, but don't trust my memory - you'll want to look at the instructions.
Tom Poje Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 I hope, by your comment, you mean that simply by chance the only deferrals in the plan happen to be Roth according to the IRS Q and A https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/retirement-plans-faqs-on-designated-roth-accounts#13 Can a plan offer only designated Roth contributions? No, in order to provide for designated Roth contributions, a plan must also offer traditional, pre-tax elective contributions. K2retire and MWeddell 2
Bird Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Belgarath said: the Roth deferrals are already included in Box 1, so there are no deferrals to "add back" in to Box 1 if it is just Roth. So I would expect the Box 5 amounts to be the same, in the absence of any other modifications. This is correct. Ed Snyder
BG5150 Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 Get the payroll report. Don't use W2s. QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
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