mphs77 Posted February 14, 2020 Posted February 14, 2020 Is there any safe harbor contribution which can be made that excludes ACP testing for a Plan which is allowing voluntary after-tax employee contributions? We have an Employer who is making a 3% Safe Harbor non-elective contribution (applied only for ADP purposes) with an HCE making such a voluntary after-tax contribution and it is causing an issue with the potential ACP test. Thanks ahead of time for any guidance you can provide.
Bill Presson Posted February 14, 2020 Posted February 14, 2020 After tax contributions are always subject to ACP even in a safe harbor plan. David Schultz 1 William C. Presson, ERPA, QPA, QKA bill.presson@gmail.com C 205.994.4070
Larry Starr Posted February 14, 2020 Posted February 14, 2020 33 minutes ago, mphs77 said: Is there any safe harbor contribution which can be made that excludes ACP testing for a Plan which is allowing voluntary after-tax employee contributions? We have an Employer who is making a 3% Safe Harbor non-elective contribution (applied only for ADP purposes) with an HCE making such a voluntary after-tax contribution and it is causing an issue with the potential ACP test. Thanks ahead of time for any guidance you can provide. No. Sometimes there is a very clear and simple answer, and that is the case here. I'm pretty sure we have no safe harbor plans that allow voluntary after tax contributions. David Schultz 1 Lawrence C. Starr, FLMI, CLU, CEBS, CPC, ChFC, EA, ATA, QPFC President Qualified Plan Consultants, Inc. 46 Daggett Drive West Springfield, MA 01089 413-736-2066 larrystarr@qpc-inc.com
CuseFan Posted February 14, 2020 Posted February 14, 2020 Which is why the use of VATC for "backdoor Roth" IRAs only works (typically) for solo or HCE-only plans, or possibly some very large plans that are not SH but can pass ACP testing. Note you can use QNECs to help pass ACP testing, but you have no safe harbors as our esteemed colleagues stated. Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
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