Belgarath Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 Some states are paying certain front-line employees a "grant" or "extra payment" or whatever you might want to call it. This comes from the state/federal funds, and it is run through the employer as TAXABLE wages. The employer doesn't pay this out of their own pocket. Is this considered eligible compensation for deferrals/profit sharing/whatever? The "simple" answer is that the plan in question defines compensation as W-2, so it would seem that as long as this is being reported/taxed on the W-2, it should be eligible compensation for plan purposes. But since nothing is normal this year, I thought I'd see if anyone has different opinions?
CuseFan Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 I would say it is compensation. Consider the PPP loans which are forgivable and turn into grants - money is used to pay employees, does not directly come from employer's pocket, other than it came through on its way from the government. But to the employee it is just pay. In your case, it's extra pay, hazard pay, whatever you want to call it - but it's hitting the W-2 as wages so it's plan compensation unless otherwise specifically excluded. Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
Peter Gulia Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 The kind of plan that allows most State and local government employees an opportunity for elective deferrals is a § 457(b) eligible deferred compensation plan. (Public-school employees might use a § 403(b) plan. And some governmental employers might have a § 401(k) arrangement under a transition rule in the Tax Reform Act of 1986.) This explanation assumes a § 457(b) plan’s provisions are no more restrictive than is necessary to get § 457(b) tax treatment. Under I.R.C. § 457(b), a participant’s yearly deferral limit ordinarily is the lesser of an amount and “100 percent of the participant's includible compensation for the taxable year.” 26 C.F.R. § 1.457-4(c)(1)(B) “Includible compensation of a participant means, with respect to a taxable year, the participant's compensation, as defined in [Internal Revenue Code of 1986] section 415(c)(3), for services performed for the eligible employer.” 26 C.F.R. § 1.457-2(g). No matter which way a governmental employer finds the money, I might assume the hazard pay you describe fits that definition. In my experience, few employees have compensation so modest that the 100% prong controls the deferral limit for the sum of elective-deferral contributions and, if provided, matching and non-elective contributions under a governmental § 457(b) plan. If an employer’s matching or non-elective contribution, if any, is provided under a plan other than the § 457(b) plan, it is even less likely that § 457(b)’s 100% prong practically controls a participant’s deferral limit. If one of your questions is about the measure of compensation on which an employer provides a matching or non-elective contribution, that’s governed by the plan’s terms. For a governmental plan, consider that a plan might have terms not stated in the thing practitioners call a plan document; State (and local) public law controls. Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
Luke Bailey Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 On 9/29/2020 at 11:02 AM, Belgarath said: Some states are paying certain front-line employees a "grant" or "extra payment" or whatever you might want to call it. This comes from the state/federal funds, and it is run through the employer as TAXABLE wages. The employer doesn't pay this out of their own pocket. Is this considered eligible compensation for deferrals/profit sharing/whatever? The "simple" answer is that the plan in question defines compensation as W-2, so it would seem that as long as this is being reported/taxed on the W-2, it should be eligible compensation for plan purposes. But since nothing is normal this year, I thought I'd see if anyone has different opinions? Belgarath, you mean these are private companies that are receiving the grants to pay higher wages, right? Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034
Belgarath Posted October 1, 2020 Author Posted October 1, 2020 The particular plan that caused this question to be raised is a 501(c)(3), but the many would be private for-profit businesses.
Peter Gulia Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 Belgarath, sorry for my miscue; I didn't see that a State might provide the money to non-governmental employers. Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
Belgarath Posted October 1, 2020 Author Posted October 1, 2020 No problem - I didn't specify this properly in the OP.
Luke Bailey Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 I think this is compensation both under 415 and under most plans' definition of allocation comp. Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034
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