Jakyasar Posted August 20, 2021 Posted August 20, 2021 Hi Here is a new one for me. New 401k plan, effective 1/1/2021 (no short plan/tax year) They decided to hire a new employee on 9/1/2021 and will pay 350k salary for calendar 2021. This employee will have an immediate entry of 9/1/2021, a special entry date amendment otherwise plan has 21/1 and dual entry for eligibility. For 401k deferrals, profit sharing allocation and testing compensation, what needs to be prorated? Assume no hour requirements for ps and 401k. Thank you QKA, QKC, QPA, CBS
Lou S. Posted August 20, 2021 Posted August 20, 2021 Nothing needs to be prorated for this individual. If that is $350K salary in 4 months he will hit the 401(a)(17) limit of $290K. If his salary is $350K annually and he's being paid 4 months he'll be under the comp limit and HCE limit in 2021 and not an HCE for 2022. If $350k w-2 salary, unless they are an owner, they will be a NHCE for 2021 and HCE for 2022 which could have implications for your 2022 test if you test statutory exclusions separate. I suppose it's possible he's not an HCE because he's not in the TPG and the plan applies that election though it would be unusual.
Jakyasar Posted August 20, 2021 Author Posted August 20, 2021 Hi Lou Thank you for the additional information but not worried about next year yet. Plan only covers HCE's anyway so 2022 is not an issue neither is 2021. Sometimes we need those plans with no testing issues. Much appreciated. QKA, QKC, QPA, CBS
Jakyasar Posted August 20, 2021 Author Posted August 20, 2021 Actually let me change the above to a DB plan, again with all the above provisions, would I need to prorate the accrued benefit? QKA, QKC, QPA, CBS
BG5150 Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 If he's paid $350k in 2021, how is he not an HCE for '22? QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
Lou S. Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 1:15 PM, Jakyasar said: Actually let me change the above to a DB plan, again with all the above provisions, would I need to prorate the accrued benefit? What are the conditions for accrual in the document and does the participant meet those?
Jakyasar Posted August 23, 2021 Author Posted August 23, 2021 Assume 1 hour of service i.e. participant met the requirement. Thank you QKA, QKC, QPA, CBS
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