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Very strange and possibly insurmountable retirement plan hurdle
Hi esteemed experts!
Not in the business but have benefitted greatly from your input and expertise as I navigate retirement planning for my own business.
Here's a strange situation and I am looking for some basic guidance. Bullet points for simplicity
1) My masseuse is vietnamese. Her sister's spouse/sig-other passes away suddenly. He has assets in a 401k
2) The deceased did not trust his wife with funds (and they were not legally married) so he decided to put my masseuse (his sister in law) as the beneficiary of the 401k assets with the understanding that funds would be used for the benefit of the deceased's child (single child).
3) Somehow, the beneficiary name was my masseuses first name and the deceased's LAST name (they are unrelated and not married). The deceased, apparently, did not understand English well, nor the ramifications of this but thought if he put his sister-in-law's first name and his last name, that somehow it would work out in the end.
4) So.....401k has a non-existent sole beneficiary (there is NO ONE with the legal name ascribed to beneficiary status, essentially a made up name), the deceased was never officially married to the now widow and the intent was for the 401k to go the widow's sister for management purposes (my masseuse, a very intelligent, caring and trustworthy individual).
I have offered to call the 401k admin to explain the situation and get some advise (I believe it's empower), but they won't talk to anyone who isn't associated with the account (not my masseuse, not the widow, no one), nor will the employer get involved.
How does one even begin to address this (state of Massachusetts). Will the assets eventually escheat to the state? Are we talking legal counsel and a drawn out process? To top it off, no one knows how much the assets are and whether or not it is even worth pursuing (could be hundreds, could be hundreds of thousands).
Any takers for this bizarro situation?
Thank you!
SR
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