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    top heavy question

    Tom
    By Tom,

    Client has  basic safe harbor match.  They want to provide more match.  I will recommend the discretionary match that doe snot match deferrals over 6% nor exceeds 4%.  they can choose the parameters.

    The plan is top heavy.  We don't run into this situation often but I believe the above still satisfies the top-heavy exemption since it all stays within the parameters of the safe harbor rules.

    Thank you,

    Tom

     


    Plan Sponsor Name not updated on Plan Document

    KP19
    By KP19,

    The plan sponsor had a small name change from 'Inc' to 'LLC' as of 1/1/2024.  The ERISA plan document was not updated to reflect this during 2024, but will be updated at some point during 2025.  Should the 2024 Form 5500 filing for the plan year ending 12/31/24 follow the plan document or the legal company name?


    Missed Year of Death RMD from Single IRA with Multiple Beneficiaries

    Plan Doc
    By Plan Doc,

    Litigation involving a number of adult children and stepchildren of the owner of a single IRA account, who died in 2023, are now resolving their dispute by a settlement allocating a share of the IRA to each of them.  The IRA owner had been taking RMDs but died without having taken her 2023 RMD, which still has not been distributed.

    My understanding is that the 2023 RMD could have been taken by any one of the beneficiaries in the year of the IRA owner's death.  Is there any way the missed 2023 RMD can now be distributed to only one of the beneficiaries so that just one Form 5329 needs to be filed or must the 2023 RMD be allocated among all of the beneficiaries in proportion to their respective shares of the IRA to be received under the settlement and a Form 5329 be filed by each of them for a corresponding share of the 2023 RMD?


    HSA Deductions over two different tax years??

    Bcompliance2003
    By Bcompliance2003,

    How should HSA pre-tax deductions be handled if an employee is on an unpaid Leave Of Absence across two different tax years?  For example the employee starts the LOA in 2024 and comes back in 2025. 


    Year of Service Match

    30Rock
    By 30Rock,

    Is there a violation of minimum participation rules here, or is there additional testing required with the following plan design? An ERISA 401k calendar year plan has 1 year of service/1000 hours for eligibility (anniversary year then switch to plan year) and a tiered year of service match formula with tier 1 drafted as follows 1- 7 years 25% match (8-14 years 50% etc), and Year of Service for the match formula defined as 1000 hours in the Plan Year (in practice credited at year end), are there any minimum service/participation concerns under ERISA? Example employee completes eligibility on June 26, 2024, with an entry date of June 28, but is not credited with 1000 hours of service in 2024 until 12/31 and then 1/1/26 receives the first match. Seems a plan design flaw but trying to determine exactly what the issue is? Appreciate your thoughts!


    Compensation limit and 2 plans in controlled group

    30Rock
    By 30Rock,

    If an HCE participates in plan A and plan B which are in a controlled group and has Compensation of $200,000 in each plan and a 2% employer contribution, how much gets allocated to each plan account? I realize that for 2025 the 401(a)(17) compensation cap is $350,000 so it appears the maximum contribution should be $7000 across the 2 plans? Does one plan allocate $4000 and the other $3000? Thanks!


    Failed ACP test correction needed but match not funded

    Tom
    By Tom,

    We have a client who failed ACP test.  The one HCE is entitled to the match but then must receive the correction.  Issue is the match has not yet been funded and the correction is to be made by March 15.  This is his first year int he plan so he has no other match source funds. 

    I should know this but I'm thinking the ADP correction is due March 15 but an ACP correction is not dye until the end of the following plan year.  We know about the vesting rule - refund the vested portion only and forfeit the unvested amount.

    Thank you


    Terminate a SIMPLE, Start a New SH 401(k) Plan

    415 Limit
    By 415 Limit,

    Employer employs four employees, none of who are catch-up eligible.  Employer currently has a SIMPLE with the 3% match approach.  No salary deferrals have been made in 2025.

    • It’s our understanding that the increased deferral limit of $17,600 in the SIMPLE is automatically in place for 2025.  Is that right?

       

    If they terminate the SIMPLE as of 6/30/2025, then start a new SH 401(k) plan effective 7/1/2025, (distributing all required notices timely and communicating the pro-rata deferral limits in each plan ($8,727.67 / $11,846.58) specific to each participant), for the initial plan year:

    • Is Compensation from 1-1-2025 to 6-30-2025 for purposes of calculating the 3% match in the SIMPLE, if any salary deferrals are made?
    • Is Compensation from 7-1-2025 to 12-31-2025 for purposes of calculating the Employer contributions (Safe Harbor, Profit Sharing, Discretionary Match) in the 401(k) plan, or could the 401(k) plan be written to use full-year (1-1-2025 to 12-31-2025) compensation for allocation purposes for the first plan year?
    • Can the new Safe Harbor plan use the Match approach, or does it have to use the Non-Elective approach?
    • Is the SIMPLE match (if any) completely disregarded in the 401(a)(4) test in the 401(k) plan?

    They will be well under the 25% deduction limit between Employer contributions made to both plans.

    Thanks in advance for your input on this.


    Prior Year Testing Method

    TH 401k
    By TH 401k,

    In prior year, ADP ACP Non-discrimination test and coverage test is taken in disaggregate method.

    I have taken both coverage and ADP ACP test disaggregate method. However, my ADP ACP is passes in disaggregate but coverage is failed in disaggregate. But the coverage is passes in aggregate method.

    As per my understanding, it is not permissible to change the method of ADP ACP testing from disaggregate to aggregate because the plan follows prior year Testing Method. 

    Is it permissible to take coverage test in aggregate method to make the test pass. Is there any provision in IRC regarding this scenario.

    Thanks in advance!!!

     

     


    Might President Trump’s language order affect employee-benefit plans?

    Peter Gulia
    By Peter Gulia,

    President Trump’s order Designating English as the Official Language of The United States revokes President Clinton’s order Improving Access to Services for Persons With Limited English Proficiency. https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/designating-english-as-the-official-language-of-the-united-states/

    Here’s the revoked order: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2000-08-16/pdf/00-20938.pdf.

    Although the order is directed to Federal government agency heads, might this affect anything an employee-benefit plan’s administrator must do (or not do)?


    414s fails in a SHM plan

    AlbanyConsultant
    By AlbanyConsultant,

    There are some threads here that come near this, but I can't find anything that really gets to this situation... especially with a safe harbor plan.

    Plan excludes commissions from the definition of compensation for all sources - deferral, safe harbor match (deposited per payroll with no true up in the AA), and profit sharing.  For the first several years of the plan, the owner and child have had 50%+ of their total compensation paid as commissions, so 414s would always pass as most NHCEs have commissions of 10%-20% of total comp.

    Until now; in 2024, child is not paid at all, and owner restructured so that all his compensation was regular wages.  Sure, I can point to the caveat in my letter each year that this is a terrible idea and only is valid due to the large percentage of commissions that owner & child take, and let us know if that changes... but now that it fails, what actually happens?

    There's no PS for 2024, so that's fine.

    There's no ADP test, so is there no effect on the deferrals?  Plan sponsor insists that all participants understand that there will be no deferrals on commissions.

    For the SHM, I presume that I have to calculate it on an annual basis including all compensation.  But here's the thing: that might end up lowering the deferral percentage and therefore the match (example: deferring $2,500 on $50,000 elig comp yields 5% and you get the maximum match; now if we compare $2,500 to $83,000 total comp, that's 3% and you get a lower SHM).

    What's the right way to proceed with this?  Thanks.


    How to correct if no permissible payment event?

    SundanceKid
    By SundanceKid,

    There is an agreement subject to 409A that provides that a bonus is earned upon a sale of the company. However, it does not provide when or how that bonus is to be paid, is there anyway to correct under 409A? There is going to be a sale of the company, but the plan provisions don't state when payment is to be made (i.e. lump sum, installments...)


    Section 415 Limits and refunds on earnings

    Dominic
    By Dominic,

    In 2025, the 415 limits are $70,000. Here is the scenario:

    The employee has a profit-sharing plan because of an agreement that can not produce refunds.  The employee also has a 401k plan with employee deferrals only. Weekly payroll on the deferrals where the monies go in within 3-5 days after the pay date, is consistent and timely. 

    The 2025 year ends and we realize that some 401k participants are over their 415 limits. Let's also assume that over the age of 50 and between 60-63 the catch-up and super catch-up contributions were backed off to the 415 limits.  We now have a scenario where refunds have to occur. 

    In the first scenario, a total of $9,000 has to be refunded. This $9,000 came in over 9 weeks ($1,000 per week) and applied to payroll periods in November and December. The $9,000 has to be refunded (This is a given)

    Now, the $9 million question:  What about earnings on the $9,000 over 9 weeks, plus lead time to perform the calculations and set up the refunds?  It is nearly impossible to capture 10 investments in different asset classes from the day the monies were invested, plus earnings to the day it was refunded.  

    How does a TPA or Plan Administrator/Trustee calculate the earnings on the refunds?  One can use this calculator and refund the monies by March 1st of the following year as the pooled investments are held in individual accounts from a major recordkeeper, etc. 

    https://www.askebsa.dol.gov/vfcpcalculator/webcalculator.aspx

    Do we use the online VFCP calculator to determine refunds on earnings? I see no guidance if we had market losses, like in 2022 (unless you were all in guaranteed investment contracts).  

    I doubt a TPA has sophisticated earnings software, and they probably perform this manually.  Again, only for 415 limits here. The ADP test is a separate issue that one can monitor and know upfront based on the census of this plan. 

    Earnings Calculator VFCP.pdf


    deposit error attributable earnings

    LMK TPA
    By LMK TPA,

    A participant's safe harbor match for 2024 should be $3,000.  Payroll company deposited $4,800.  The account had positive earnings for 2024

    (1) I assume we calculate attributable earnings on the excess deposit and move $1800 plus earnings to the cash account.  Is this correct?

    (2) What are the options to use the $1,800?  Can it be used to fund 2025 safe harbor match deposits?  Should it be allocated as a discretionary match for 2024?  Could it be used to pay our fees?

    (3) I feel like the attributable earnings shouldn't be used to fund a contribution.  Can it be used to pay our fees?

    Thank you!

     

     


    IRS Compliance Questions on late 5500-SF filings

    ejohnke
    By ejohnke,

    Looking for some guidance...In 2023, the IRS added Part VIII "IRS Compliance Questions" to Form 5500-SF. We are filing a late 2021 Form 5500-SF using the DFVC program. Since we have to file this on the 2024 Form 5500-SF, do we need to complete these questions that didn't apply to the Form 5500-SF in 2021?


    How does a government shutdown affect the Internal Revenue Service and you?

    Peter Gulia
    By Peter Gulia,

    Here’s a hyperlink to the IRS’s FY2025 Lapsed Appropriations Contingency Plan:
    https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/266/IRS-FY24LapsePlan.pdf

    BenefitsLink neighbors, what do you think:

    Would stopping IRS examinations be welcome or unwelcome?

    Would stopping rulemaking and other interpretive guidance be welcome or unwelcome?
     


    Qualified replacement plan to reduce Profit Sharing contribution

    Connietwk
    By Connietwk,

    Is there any guideline that we will need to use up the qualified replacement plan balance before an employer can make a deductible profit sharing contribution? (i.e. if we have $150,000 under the QRP and the PS allocation is $100,000 for the plan year, can we use $50k from QRP in year 1 which satisfy the 1/7 rule and make $50k deposit for tax deduction? 

    Thank you, 

    Connie


    Control groups for Investment Company

    TPApril
    By TPApril,

    Another one of my favorite topics - control groups etc.....

    Small Investment Company (2 owners) owns a store in one state, but no other business in that state, nor any other location of the store or a similar type of business.

    They do however have unrelated holdings in other states.

    Is this an attorney question?


    1099-R reporting of after-tax (non-Roth) amounts

    KaJay
    By KaJay,

    Happy Friday, everyone. I am wondering if any of you have some insight on reporting after-tax (non-Roth) distributions vs. Roth distributions. 

    We have an individual taking a distribution of his after-tax (non-Roth) money. There are questions as to how reporting this transaction is different than reporting a Roth distribution. The main question comes down to which distribution code(s) the payer is to use in box 7.

    For a [qualified] Roth distribution, the payer indicates:

    • the full distribution amount in box 1;
    • $0.00 in box 2a;
    • the Roth contribution (basis) amount in box 5, and
    • code "7B" for box 7
    • year of first Roth contribution in box 11

    This is what has been proposed for the After-tax (non-Roth) 1099-R:

    • the full distribution amount in box 1;
    • taxable earnings portion in box 2a;
    • the after-tax (non-Roth) contribution (basis) amount in box 5, and
    • code "7" in box 7

    Anyone know if this is correct?


    HSA Employer and Employee Contributions

    BellaBee41
    By BellaBee41,

    Hi All,

    For employers that offer an HSA and HSA Employer Contribution, what is the best practice for when employees leave the company? Medical benefits are scheduled to term on last day of month (in the example below, it would end on 2/28). When should the employer stop their EE & ER contributions? For example, pay period is from 2/17/2025 - 3/2/2025 and pay date is 3/7/2025. If an employee terminates on 2/24, should they receive the full employer contribution even if the pay date falls in March? What about their EE contributions? Should employers still deduct the EE contributions from their March check, even if benefits ended on 2/28? 


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